I am interested to see how it plays out. I wouldnt have picked this person.
Winona Ryder?
Oh, wait, she's just my fetish. Wrong thread.
Ooh, I win!
It helps that I saw her in a movie recently.
What? I didn't say who it is. Obviously she's a chick, else the guessing game would be pointless. But you can redact away if you want, Mr. Pissy.
It's obviously Scarlett Johansson.
Not to mention the obvious boob, you boob.
I'm crushing seriously hard on this one.
S/he's been my favourite for years, and now that s/he's playing the androgynous Dylan... I'm crushing even harder. I don't know what that makes me anymore. I am teh confused.
I'm looking forward to the nude scenes. Who will play Susie Rotolo?
9: It makes you an intelligent person with good taste.
This is only going to worsen my tendency to confuse her with Tilda Swinton.
Come to think of it, I might go to more films if all the guys were played by nude women. Filmcraft, plot, dialogue, and characterization leave me cold, but there are some things film does well.
I guessed it, but only because I saw that the film in which she plays the title medieval character will have a sequel today. I'm very excited. I've watched the original so many times. "There will be one mistress here!"
I was just told that Dylan's vocal style was imitated from a Woody Guthrie recording made when Guthrie had a bad cold. Guthrie didn't normally sound like that.
12: It's possible to confuse her with Tilda Swinton? Really?
Shit, apparently it's possible for *some* people to confuse her with a man.
Which btw I'm sure she does a fabulous Dylan impersonation and yes, she looks reasonably Dylanesque in that picture, but still.
Blonde persons with boobs are indistinguishable, like Swedes.
So you're saying I look exactly like the actor in question, John? I wish.
The boobs in that picture could be a clothing feature.
And I have the 12 problem too. Didn't Orlando come out roughly around the same time as (mumble mumble)?
It's like saying one can't tell Fred Astaire and Cary Grant apart.
19 contains a common but still incorrect use of "which".
(I mean, Swinton is by no means as homely as Astaire was, but still.)
You look quite a bit like Dylan, B, but it's more the sweetness of temper and wholesomeness.
The boobs in that picture could be a clothing feature.
I swear to god you people are all insane.
I never would have known who it was, _and_ I've also confused her with Tilda Swinton.
I would have recognized her if I saw her eyes, probably.
Did not notice any boobs, but it's clearly a woman.
OK, let's start talking about the "Bringing it All Back Home" cover. Dylan, or some chick?
24: isn't it an oral colloquialism for "with regards to which"? It sounds very spoken-y.
I've only seen your headshot, B, but yes, she could play you in the movie. Oh, what a movie.
That usage of "which" was discussed on Kotsko's blog and before that, by Languagelog. It's a new usage.
Trick question, Emerson! There is both Dylan and some chick on the cover to that album!
Okay, that makes up for you calling me a Maroon. I'm immensely flattered. If only everyone were so indiscriminate.
37 to 34. Nothing will make up for Ben affecting to correct my grammar.
The hell with the boobs (although B has a point), hello, wrist and hand?
39: THANK YOU Rocky. As always. Can we please just smack all these bitches up already?
Plus I never called you a maroon, 38.
I picked up the wrist and hand, but it looked like Winona Ryder's wrist and hand. Some days everything looks like Winona Ryder to me.
"Maroon" isn't even an insult in my mouth.
**NEWSFLASH** I just don't get what Bernard Williams means by "blame".
The Maroons have an honorable history, so calling B a maroon would be fraught with irony.
Wrist, hand, whatev. It all looks epheby. I was thinking of young, boyish actors.
"I can't operate on this boy," said the doctor, "he's my son." It wouldn't be a fun game if there wasn't a trick.
Related: had anyone ever heard the word "ephebophile" before Mark Foley got busted?
I guessed right, based on the nose. I guess that means I'm done here.
had anyone ever heard the word "ephebophile" before Mark Foley got busted?
Yes.
All right, if you're so smart, find me the part on Language Log where they do "which by the way".
had anyone ever heard the word "ephebophile" before Mark Foley got busted?
Yes, during discussions of John Derbyshire.
THANK YOU Rocky. As always. Can we please just smack all these bitches up already?
What are you agitated about?
52: Don't worry your pretty little head, Ned. It's a girl thing.
I got as far as 'that's a woman... the one who isn't the other one or the other one.' Wrist and hand indeed.
My dad thinks I look like her but not in this picture!
Thanks, John. Tilda Swinton can play you.
Blanchett is fine, but I think I have enjoyed the movies of Collette & Binoche (e.g) more over the last decade.
Too much hair, too red. Dylan may have been a little androgynous, but I don't remember him ever being languid, and I just saw the Pennebaker again recently. Coiled snake he was, rattling striking often; not like Warhol.
I smell a speedfreak.
"Yes, during discussions of John Derbyshire with the parole board."
57: Blanchett is fine, but
You know how I know you're gay?
Bob may be gay, but the latter two paragraphs of 57 are completely right. The red thing especially; Blanchett's just flat out the wrong ethnicity to play him, amazing though she is.
She is indeed the wrong ethnicity, but are you guys calling that hair red? Reddish, even?
The usage of "which" in 19 is undoubtedly incorrect, but also delightfully spry. I use it with abandon, and a generous sprinkling of commas.
It's a descriptor of the difference between her hair and visibly Ashkenazi hair, not her hair itself.
I can't believe that we're arguing about the right lady to play Dylan. Shakira is my pick.
For a second I thought it was Helena Bonham Carter, and was really excited.
Ozzie ain't rock no jewfro. I argue: Sarah Silverman!
Those, incidentally, are totally not a dude's legs, either.
There are plenty of Jewish redheads. (I went to high school with a redheaded Cuban Jew. If only he had been gay and left-handed!) It looks texturally off more than the color being wrong.
Carefully considering the two dos, Cate's seem close enough to me except that it was obviously styled that way and doesn't have the ratty slept-in look. Obviously she was willing to pretend to have a penis, but not willing to look like a drowned rat.
Actually, given Sifu's point about her legs (which I didn't catch, not even going that far), is she pretending to have a package? She's really not sitting like she's packing.
73 is a good question. Actually, I'm starting without the prompting from the post, how many of us would've guessed this was supposed to be someone playing Dylan. I probably wouldn't have.
That seems pretty obvious. It is sort of silly to judge her performance based on a still photo, though. She could be utterly convincing, even if you don't buy the look in this shot.
Obvious, I guess. But don't let that stop me!
I knew it was a woman, but I doubt the Bob Dylan part. I think she's going for Will Smith in MIB.
I gather it's less about mimesis than about play. More of a Todd Solondz Palindromes thing.
I think she's going for Will Smith in MIB.
It's a little-known fact that Will Smith in ALI was going for Cate Blanchett.
Chick Punching: pro or con: that is the question at the heart of Fresh Prince of Highway 61 Revisited in Bel Air, starring Cate Blanchett as Cary Grant in his historic role as Will Smith playing Suze Rotolo in Townes Van Zandt's Yoko Ono's Patton.
No, it has to be Shakira. That's all wrong.
I'm waiting for the shot-by-shot remake by Gus van Sant, starring Tilda Swinton as The Dude.
... screenplay by Shakira, from the novel There Was Grass On The Field by John Derbyshire.
I'd heard about this and was looking forward to seeing it, so couldn't play. But I'd pay to see her in just about anything, and I hope this cross-casting thing turns into a trend.
57, 62, 71: Is this not a wig? I'd blame the wig builder/dresser - looks like some conditioning product invented in 2003 got rubbed into it. See Rfts' comment about the leads in costume dramas always having modern hair.
At least it wasn't Phil Spector in yet another wig.
Have we cast Suze Rotolo yet? I have a great idea! Brad Pitt!
I look forward to Abigail Breslin's star turn as Jakob Dylan.
87 has made me remember Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Oy.
I look forward to Cate Dylan's formative years as she learns at the knee of Odetta and Ramblin' Jack Elliott, both played by Clive Owen in a sensational Oscar bid.
OTOH, 87 also made the totally obvious point that the condition or quality of a particular actor's hair is a complete non-issue in casting.
I knew it was a woman from the way the buttons button.
I knew it was a woman from the way she got paid 70 cents on the dollar and worked second shift after work, while her shiftless husband watched TV, and she picked up after the kids and got no thanks.
95: if Cate Blanchett gets paid 70 cents on the dollar, that's a big dollar.
It's a 40-by-60-foot diamond-encrusted dollar with built-in crumple zones. It's cave-aged and should be cellared for an additional six to eight years.
Compare her salary to some douchebag like Tom Cruise. I bet she's getting totally ripped off.
It knows your name and turns itself off when not in use.
It knows your name and turns itself off when not in use.
Your girlfriend?
Compared to some douchebag like Tom Cruise, everybody's getting ripped off. For that matter, by agency of Tom Cruise everybody's getting ripped off.
102, 103: There's always some man willing to step up and talk about how x piece of evidence isn't representative. Frequently, as we see here, it's the very same man who was five minutes earlier saying that x wasn't evidence at all.
And who is that man? I'd like to have him involved in this conversation.
Tom Cruise's e-meter readings are way better than Cate's, so the disparity is clearly justified.
When did "douche" (as opposed to "douchebag", of course a fine and venerable insult in its own right) gain the wide currency it enjoys at the moment?
And what purpose exactly does a bag serve during the douching?
It holds the liquid being introduced into the vagina.
As to the popularity of the word, I picked it up from you douches.
108: I object to your use of the offensive term "bag" to indicate women, heebie.
I thought it was a knapsack from the Netherlands? No?
107: I had been preferring "chotch," until someone suggested this term is also a euphemism for vagina, of which I was unaware. Now I don't know what to call such individuals. "Assholes," I guess.
Please tell me you people are joking and I do not have to explain the physics of passively introducing liquid into a bodily orifice to you all.
Now I don't know what to call such individuals. "Assholes," I guess.
"Turd burglars"
I am fond of it. What a douche! I cry, and am pleased thereby. I feel it signifies something distinct from "douchebag", which has more of a flavor of "scumbag" about it, while to be a douche is to be even more ridiculous, more feeble, more absurdly and obnoxiously, uselessly lame.
113: I found my aunt's douching device (okay, I need help with terminology, B) while I was showering at her house at around age eight. I though it was a sprinkler, and I laughed and laughed, as I "sprinkled" the shower with it.
No, I'm not kidding.
118: for god's sake, the term is "douche bag"!
Enema bag, feed bag, douche bag, frosting bag: all the same tool with slightly different names.
"frosting" s/b "decorating", but what do you care.
119: Does the bag plus the spout-y part not have some different—more complete—name?
118 - A friend once told me about using some tampons he found in his mother's purse somewhat like potato guns. You slam the plunger and it goes flying! Whee!
121: It doesn't when it's a pastry bag.
Please tell me you people are joking and I do not have to explain the physics of passively introducing liquid into a bodily orifice to you all.
Passive introductions are the worst. Really awkward. I hate it when I'm at a party with a bodily orifice of mine and the host just sort of walks over with some liquid and seems to expect that he can introduce the liquid to the orifice just by, you know, standing there looking expectantly from one to the other.
PK knows what a tampon is, and god willing he'll never encounter a fucking douche kit, but he did come out the other day waving my vibrator after I'd complained that my back hurt. When he was littler, his interest in my vibrator was cute. Now he's old enough that I was somewhat horrified.
I enjoyed the "nonsensical movie descriptions" thread more than the "parsing of the word 'douchebag'" thread.
Dammit, now I have the image of a ten-year-old holding a douche, standing proudly over a chocolate cake with "Clean as a whistle!" written on it.
I blame, um, B. Because who else?
Don't be horrified just because PK has been using your vibrator to relieve his back pain! That gives you plausible deniability as to its true purpose!
Not "to," Ben dear. "Into." Try again.
When he was little we told him it was a tickle machine. How he made the connection to, uh, relief of tension I have no idea. And for fuck's sake, no, it did not help; I took it from him and put it away.
When he was little we told him it was a tickle machine. How he made the connection to, uh, relief of tension I have no idea.
I don't begin to know what to say.
Yeah, me either. Kinda painted myself into a corner with that one.
Better warn him about unexplained calf pain.
I always wondered who that warning was for. Now we know.
The name in 119 should be redacted to be "ben w-lfs-n". Otherwise, the world will no longer make sense.
Pretending like the intervening 40 comments didn't happen: it's inevitable that in the scenario in 92, Clive Owen will be upstaged by Philip Seymour Hoffman in a chilling cameo as the Fifth Horseman, Severe Discomfort, who appears at a crossroads and gets mistaken for the Devil. Movie trivia buffs will note that in the background of the same scene, Steve Buscemi can be seen just up the road in the part of Ed Wood filming the never-released documentary "Douche: It's Not Just for Ladies Anymore."
She doesn't really get the jaw and cheekbones right.
cause she fakes,
just like a woman
Like the lion tears the flesh off of a man
So can a woman who passes herself off as a male
Hey dave, remember that time when people called you bob dylan 'cause you looked so much like him? Huh do ya huh?
(Dude has some visibly ashkenazi hair on him.)
The trailer is here and a leaked clip is here. Without the glasses, she doesn't look a lot like him. The jury's out for me on how much she acts like him.
That looks almost like David Cross playing Ginsberg in that clip. Pretty convincing.
Don't think I'll be able to buy her as Dylan, even a little bit; the physical Cate-ness is just too present.
Oh, except from the trailer, it would seem her not looking like him is part of the point. So that's different.
Dylan! The greatest everything of our time! HE IS EVERYONE HE IS NO ONE. Shut up, Todd Haynes.
