Re: A welcome gap in the literature

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You know...

Not as such. Examples?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:25 AM
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oooh, minivet--the smooth yet manly way you asked for an example just gets me all hot and bothered!


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:28 AM
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Well, I don't want to name names. I cannot believe you've never seen this happen, though.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:42 AM
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Please sir, could I ask a completely off-topic question? Have any of you US Americans watched/seen Slacker Cats on abc? Tonight's episode is written by a (non-US American) friend of mine.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:43 AM
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Ogged just calls them "liberal guys." That seems to work.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:44 AM
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This is in no way limited to internet comment threads. Doesn't it happen a lot more in situations where the guy is actually in the same physical location with the ladies and they can see each other?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:44 AM
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And yes, I have noticed the phenomenon. Not so much to pull blokes though amongst the mommy-blogs I frequent, more to impress new friends, leaving the rest of us sniggering "yeah right".

I like "hornblogging", it's perfect.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:45 AM
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Do people really go to great lengths to impress ladeez they've never met, probably never will meet, and who, for all they know, don't exist IRL?


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:48 AM
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OneFat, you'd be surprised at the overlap between unfogged comment threads and real-life interactions. We're practically a dating service at this point.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:49 AM
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onefat--isn't he that awesome hongkong shoot-em-up action hero?
i had no idea he commented here. damn. now *he's* going to get all the ladeez.


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:04 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:05 AM
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Unfogged: dating service of choice for John Emerson!


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:10 AM
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Name names! Name names!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:37 AM
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Comments comments! comments on Comments!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:42 AM
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"Hornblogging" is awesome, but I doubt that what you describe ever happens. You're so mean, Labs.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:49 AM
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Waaal, I am no longer trying to get laid, but I do notice guys trying to prove that they are slightly conscious. Including myself, I suppose. But I can see the effort in EK who really really wants to be a good guy. MY, with hs nominalism and ironic poses (anti-cat?), has a more complicated stance. Let us indeed talk about people by name, and weed out all the true feminists from the poseurs and groupies.

"All hetero relationships are rape, and all romance & marriage just perpetuate the patriarchal oppression of the sex class." Would this work in a bar?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:51 AM
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"All hetero relationships are rape, and all romance & marriage just perpetuate the patriarchal oppression of the sex class." Would this work in a bar?

One way to find out!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:54 AM
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17: It sure as hell didn't work for me this weekend.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:58 AM
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I did find my 'with respect, this sounds like specious bullshit' comments didn't generally win me friends in the feminist philosophy seminar series.*

* not that all feminist philosophy is bullshit... [this is second-order hornblogging]


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:01 AM
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Who's dating Emerson?


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:05 AM
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You, if you're lucky!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:06 AM
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3: I'm pretty bad at picking up subtext. Possible manifestation: I found Gore's 2000 debate performances very compelling on a visceral level.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:14 AM
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The Unfoggedtariat needed to see this Q&A from Roger Ebert's Answer Man column:

Q. I read your "Superbad" review and agree that it was a fun movie. The only thing is, the times have changed since you were in school and third base no longer means what you think it means. I don't know of a classy way to explain third base now, but Bill Clinton should give you a hint. Unless of course that's what third base meant back then.

A. I was thinking of shortstop.


Posted by: DonBoy | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:14 AM
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i think it will put me in good with the ladies if i point out the following:

there is doubtless a female version of this same phenomenon.
fl is showing his sexist consciousness by not directing equal attention to it.
and coming up with a name for it, too.

(can't think of any myself).


Posted by: kid bitzer | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:18 AM
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"Male-identified gender treason."


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:20 AM
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I believe the country is more than 50% female, so it's just treason.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:23 AM
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Do people really go to great lengths to impress ladeez they've never met, probably never will meet, and who, for all they know, don't exist IRL?

Oh yes.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:46 AM
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There should be more posts on gender relations in the comment threads.

As a newcomer, I find the way men and women relate here endlessly fascinating.


Posted by: destroyer | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:47 AM
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28: I've never told anyone "Look in the archives" before, but please, look in the archives.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:51 AM
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Ned made me laugh.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:54 AM
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"Hornblogging" is awesome, but I doubt that what you describe ever happens.

Proof that you don't read your own comment threads, or maybe your own posts. O Tevas girl!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:55 AM
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28: I also often find myself thinking about the dynamics of gender relations. Particularly when I'm reading my dog-eared copy of The Church and the Second Sex on my way to a Take Back the Night March. Don't listen to the haters, defend these interests as robustly as you can.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:59 AM
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AS A WOMAN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT MEN GET A BAD RAP{.


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:01 AM
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Is this phenomenon related to the post-movie discussion where one guy leaves the other guys in the group shaking their heads in stunned disbelief when he loudly agrees with his girlfriend that Pike Bishop and the Wild Bunch shouldn't have walked down the dusty road to kill Mapache/Bruce Wayne should have taken some therapy and learned to be happy after his parents' deaths/Wile E. Coyote is not, in fact, a super-genius?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:03 AM
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34: I'm rather of the opinion that Karenin and Anna should have gotten a no-fault divorce, myself. And Emma Bovary? Don't get me started!


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:25 PM
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Yeah, I think this is something women are used to doing pretty much all the damn time, but men who do it are characterized as spineless and whipped. We're all spineless and whipped, people!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:36 PM
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I think of this as more pre-movie: "Yea guys, [my honey] is right. My Pretty Pony looks much better than Bourne Supremecy!"


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:42 PM
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35: Adultery isn't a fault?

36: Yes, women are all on Mapache's side. It's odd, really, but I blame Warren Oates' facial hair.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:43 PM
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37: I assume [my honey] means your daughter? Or that your gf is 10?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:45 PM
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So the only reason men agree with women is to get in our pants?

Why do you all even marry people you don't respect, hmm?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:45 PM
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Why do you all even marry people you don't respect, hmm?

This, in boldface, 100-point font, everywhere, to everyone.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:46 PM
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Cooked meals.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:51 PM
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So the only reason men agree with women is to get in our pants?

You're right -- it's outrageous when men do that.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:52 PM
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40: gay marriage isn't legal most places.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:52 PM
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42: Y'all are idiots, then, b/c it isn't that damn hard to learn to cook.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 1:59 PM
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45: It's easier to learn to not have to.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:00 PM
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It isn't that damn hard to learn to dig ditches either.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:01 PM
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46: Compared to being married to someone? Like I said, idiots.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:01 PM
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43: See? Adam gets it. Adam, why are you still single?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:02 PM
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Y'all are idiots, then, b/c it isn't that damn hard to learn to cook.

It is the laundry folding, not the cooking.

Actually, I win bc my honey LOVES football more than I do.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:02 PM
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50: 2nd order inverse hornblogging, very tricky!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:04 PM
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Also, in the pre-internet days, it gave you somebody you could needle who'd usually rise to the bait.

Dear.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:04 PM
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She is tricky though. I like the Redskins. She likes the cowpokes.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:05 PM
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40: Or to get into your friends' pants.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:06 PM
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I don't think there's a discrete measurement of how much agreement/politeness is too much in a relationship. It's probably the most important factor, for me, in deciding whether someone could become a close friend or partner. Someone who agrees with everything I say, no matter how absurd? Repulsive. Someone who starts fights for the pleasure of seeing me upset? Also repulsive.

But I know plenty of men and women who require absolute lockstep agreement from everyone around them, and also some who are only titillated by a constant state of high-school Lincoln-Douglas-style debate.

What I find confusing is those people who actually seem to be convinced by my opinions about things, and so change their own after spending time with me. I don't trust them. Respect for my opinions is one thing; adopting them is something I assume only undergraduates honestly do.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:08 PM
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53: at least you're both equally misguided.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:08 PM
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On reflection, 55 is an accurate reflection of what I believe, as well.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:11 PM
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Someone who agrees with everything I say, no matter how absurd? Repulsive. Someone who starts fights for the pleasure of seeing me upset? Also repulsive.

Agreed.

Q:What do you want to do?

A:Anything you want.

I want to date someone else, not myself. I want someone who brings something to the relationship. Preferably a nice paycheck or a nice house at the beach, but if not those things, at least independant thought.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:12 PM
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I agree with everything Tweety says.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:13 PM
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On reflection, 55 explains a lot about my relationships with my dissertation advisors, too.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:15 PM
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55: Well, but people do legitimately change their minds sometimes. If someone quickly adopts many of your opinions, that's alarming.

The most truly open-minded person I've ever known was a flatmate when I spent a semester in England (U. of Sussex). He had his own strong opinions, but would also listen to & discuss thoughtfully with others and sometimes, upon reflection, change his mind without defensiveness. He was a lovely, lovely person. (Who I've sadly lost track of and has such a common name that Google, etc., are of no use.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:15 PM
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Thinking about it further, 61 is probably a more accurate picture of what I think about this.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:17 PM
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58: What's wrong with a division of labor where one partner more often plans activities? Huh?! Maybe some people are just more plugged into that kind of thing, or have more specific desires, or both, whereas some other people are just looking to go out and have a good time and don't really care what in specific they "do" -- such that it would almost be artificial for them to assert that they "want to do" some specific thing.

And no, I do not feel insecure on this issue at all.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:17 PM
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Who Whom

(And here I sit, eagerly waiting to watch "Wordgirl," a new PBS kids' show.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:17 PM
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55: I don't mind if people disagree with me, as long as they obey.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:19 PM
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Adam, I often find myself in this position because most of the guys I've dated have been narrower in their tastes of things to do. That is, if I continually suggest fun things to go out and do, and he keeps saying "No, let's make dinner at my apartment and watch TV," it really makes me not want to answer the question "What do you want to do?"

That is, the fault in the conversation in 58 can be on both parties. If the person asking has proved he doesn't actually give a shit what the answer is, because he's tired and cranky and doesn't want to do anything at all, he shouldn't ask.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:23 PM
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Dating Flippanter would be easier if he weren't always trying to make his horse a consul.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:25 PM
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63: after strongly asserting my opinion that no preference was a perfectly valid preference for many years, I've realized that people like somebody who has opinions, and likes, such that they are not always worried that they're dealing with (a) a passive aggresive timebomb, (b) an affectless lump, or (c) a hopelessly overenthusiastic feeb. I thus attempt to always express a preference, but cheerfully give way when prodded.

Does this work? Who cares! At least I'm doing something.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:27 PM
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I thus attempt to always express a preference, but cheerfully give way when prodded.

This is a good method of dealing with all relationship issues in the short term.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:29 PM
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69: long term, obviously, I let the anger and resentment built to a good, frothy head.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:30 PM
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68: I've actually adopted a variation on that policy, throwing out suggestions that I certainly wouldn't mind doing, but that I don't expect will be taken seriously. Thus I have no investment in "my" options and am able to go along with it when other (invariably better) plans are suggested. I have had some limited success in picking restaurants, though.

I'm beginning to find that I like routine a lot better than most people -- I don't have infinite tolerance for it by any means, but I have no principled objection to going to the same restaurant or bar all the time, etc. At the very least, it's good to have a default "fallback" thing to do. I guess that's how I view "my" plans in general -- a fallback if the other person doesn't feel like coming up with something.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:32 PM
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a passive aggresive timebomb

Hm!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:33 PM
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66: "I want to go to the Metropolitan Museum and look at this painting, the weird nautilus-esque craquelure of the sky in which has been nipping at my heels for a long time, and then I want to go to the Arms & Armor section and look at the Japanese swords for a really long time, moving my head very, very slowly from side to side so I can examine the blades for otherwise-invisible nicks and imperfections that suggest long prior lives of drinking the blood of men. Why? What would you like to do, sweetheart?"

67: Trigger is more qualified for the position than many a senator I might name but will not, preferring to forbear to disparage the arithmetical skills of the Senate's greybeards.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:36 PM
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B @ 41 :
She asked me. She actually needed me, both emotionally and materially and in other ways. That'd never happened to me before. Nor had adult love, and I had despaired that it ever would. I was needy and broken too. I saved her life, and her kid's life. All it cost me was pretty much everything.


Posted by: joel hanes | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:42 PM
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I'm beginning to find that I like routine a lot better than most people -- I don't have infinite tolerance for it by any means, but I have no principled objection to going to the same restaurant or bar all the time, etc. At the very least, it's good to have a default "fallback" thing to do.

Exactly. If you do the same thing repeatedly, it's probably because, well, you like doing it! Nothing wrong with that. And if your life is pretty good, why shouldn't you be content?


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:42 PM
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I'm such a dick, but I enjoy reading the end of 74 in the voice of Don LaFontaine.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:46 PM
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75: Without the chill breath of danger in one's face, the serpent of fear tightening its coils 'round one's spine?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:48 PM
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One of the things I used to teach in my public opinion class was about how men are much more pro choice when the person asking the questions is a woman than when its a man.


Posted by: benton | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:48 PM
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I let the anger and resentment built to a good, frothy head.

See 68a.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:56 PM
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Without the chill breath of danger in one's face, the serpent of fear tightening its coils 'round one's spine?

That part comes from the women I date. Or try to.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:56 PM
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74: So it was a marriage born of pity. Bad idea.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:56 PM
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79: thanks for making that explicit, B.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:58 PM
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I guess I somewhat resent the implication that how a man acts around other men is somehow more authentic than how he reacts around women.

I remember when my brother was about 14, he'd answer the phone in a natural voice, and then, hearing it was one of his dude friends, his voice dropped about an octave. "Hello, [Bear] residence? OH, HEY BRO. WHAT'S GOIN' ON?" Men learn very early on that their dude friends reward them for sounding hypermasculine, holding misogynistic opinions, and expressing interest only in violent/pornographic media. Is that more real than sounding sensitive, gentle, and caring in the hopes of getting laid?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 2:58 PM
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Is that more real than sounding sensitive, gentle, and caring in the hopes of getting laid?

Way more. Am I right, bros?!? YEAH!

(chest bumps)


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:00 PM
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One of the things I used to teach in my public opinion class was about how men are much more pro choice when the person asking the questions is a woman than when its a man.

And more pro-war when the person asking the questions is a man. I would assume.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:00 PM
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BROS BEFORE HOS


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:00 PM
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84: Boo-yah! That's what I'm talking about! Let's all go get tattoos of eagles fighting snakes fighting dragons fighting tigers!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:01 PM
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83: Sometimes people will put on an act for friends of their own gender, in an attempt to live up to their expectations. (As with the hypermasculine schtick, so with hyper-giggly BFF girly schitck.) Other times people will say things to friends of their own gender that they'd be less likely to say to a member of the opposite gender, because they genuinely feel more at ease doing so. This can't be any kind of news.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:02 PM
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Big-breasted eagles!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:03 PM
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I've always been a HOS BEFORE BROS man, even as early as first grade. The only time when it didn't work in my favor was at Olivet, where "working in my favor" in the shortrun would've probably meant "wrecking my life" in the longrun.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:04 PM
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90: I've always been a HOS BEFORE BROS man

I hear you. Positive Image Makin' Progress.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:06 PM
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B @ 81 :
Yes. Even worse, a good deal of the pity was self-pity.


Posted by: joel hanes | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:06 PM
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87: Dude, the tigers have to be fighting the eagles too. Otherwise, it won't go all the way around our MANLY BICEPS.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:06 PM
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Dudes! Let's flex!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:07 PM
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You guys are all fucking gay.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:08 PM
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I've always been a HOS BEFORE BROS man

There's news.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:09 PM
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94: I've been flexing since comment #65.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:09 PM
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Aw, slam! You just got called gay by a girl!


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:11 PM
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82: You can always count on me, Tweety.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:11 PM
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95: Dude, liking muscles so does not make you gay. Matt Feeney totally settled this.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:12 PM
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100: I like Michael Wood's review much better than Feeney's apologia: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n08/wood01_.html


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:14 PM
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100: How much better would the Feeney article have read if it had been entitled "Do You Like Gladiator Movies, Billy?"


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:19 PM
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That's not gay. It's just bro-mantic.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:19 PM
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99: I know I can, bro.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 3:21 PM
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83:

Men learn very early on that their dude friends reward them for sounding hypermasculine, holding misogynistic opinions, and expressing interest only in violent/pornographic media.

Some men conclude that.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 7:05 PM
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This is in no way limited to internet comment threads. Doesn't it happen a lot more in situations where the guy is actually in the same physical location with the ladies and they can see each other?

This phenomenon contributes to a minor subplot in Tom Wolfe's The Bonfire of the Vanities. A prosecutor goes all-out to win a conviction (despite believing that the charges hardly merit punishment) because he wants to bang a female juror.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 7:15 PM
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I guess I somewhat resent the implication that how a man acts around other men is somehow more authentic than how he reacts around women.

Word. My manner around women is very different from my manner around men, but I'd hate to think that the latter is the "real me." I like the former a lot more.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:28 PM
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My first thought upon reading this: sounding sensitive, gentle, and caring in the hopes of getting laid was "that's a terrible way to try to get laid," but what do I know, after all.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:30 PM
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Now you tell me.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:41 PM
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Here's a tip for you, teo.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:44 PM
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Well, hey, you might have a shot with AWB.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:46 PM
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Just don't make this mistake again.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:48 PM
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The flophouse is drunk tonight. To celebrate labor, we grilled 30 pounds of meats, made brilliant potato salad, frijoles, cornbread, special spencer salad, catherine-cobbler, and margaritas. And susan's back! And ohmygod, it was such a spread.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:49 PM
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Andrew Cholakian's comment in #110's thread is really the all-purpose blog thread gender issues comment. It would work if OPINIONATED GRANDMA said it, too.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:49 PM
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Did you freeze the rest of Susan to cook later? Did the cobbler just have catherine in it, or fruit, too? What made the potato salad brilliant? Cubic Zirconia?

Get some more drunk commenters here, pls.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:51 PM
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I'm jealous of the flophouse.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:51 PM
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Also that Spencer salad sounds acerbic; perhaps some pineapple would sweeten it?


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:51 PM
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Me too, BG.

God damn them.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:52 PM
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What made the potato salad brilliant? Cubic Zirconia?

Diamond dust. They do things right there.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:52 PM
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Did you know that green cubic zirconia are green because of RADIOACTIVE URANIUM? It's true!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:53 PM
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120: apparently not exactly.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:55 PM
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Spencer salad is sweet corn, heirloom tomato, and raw okra, with a dill aioli. Catherine cobbler is peach and the other one, I don't know, we didn't get to it. Becks made the cornbread, Susan made margs, I smoked meat, Saiselgy arrived woo!


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:55 PM
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Susan made margs

Susan made margarine? Or she boiled marigolds? Mangold-wurzels? Margaritas?

After investigating to see whether "Andrew Cholakian" was comment spam or not, I discovered that in the last thread he ever commented on here, he said this. And was never seen again.

w-lfs-n's first casualty!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:58 PM
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Did Becks and Catherine help?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:59 PM
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The problem with the toilet blowjob is that you can't use your hands, or you have to use your hands against the stalls to brace yourself. Apparently. They're yet not willing to falsify their experiments on me.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 8:59 PM
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The problem with the toilet blowjob is that you can't use your hands, or you have to use your hands against the stalls to brace yourself.

Tell them to try the handicapped stall, the one with the handles on either side of the seat.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:00 PM
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I smoked meat

Well now there's a surprise.

But aside from the sex, did you do any cooking, 'Smasher?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:00 PM
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w-lfs-n's first casualty!

He still lurks. He supported me in email about the LA meetup that never happened.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:00 PM
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Oh man. 125 before I read 124.

How am I missing JT on hbo??


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:00 PM
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125: The problem with the toilet blowjob is that you can't use your hands

Not true.

I'm told.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:01 PM
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Junk science, in this case, being a most desirable outcome.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:01 PM
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128: Nope, I only sucked cock.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:02 PM
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He still lurks.

Ah, I'll have to give up my plan to comment as "Andrew Cholakian" purely for the purposes of saying "Goddamnit, you just don't understand what it's like!" now and then.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:02 PM
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Now we're talking about 2004. Remember Wesley Clark? I miss Wesley Clark.

We wish you were here, too, Ben w-lfs-n.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:04 PM
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Thank you, Arm Smasher.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:06 PM
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The next Unfogged house should be called the hovel.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:09 PM
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I bet the flophouse is four hundred feet tall and studded with emeralds and crystal skulls. I bet Saiselgy emits beams of golden light from his mouth when he talks. I bet Becks and Catherine mime blowjob technique while levitating beatifically above the floor. I bet Armsmasher smashes the gossamer arms of angels.

I wish I was the flophouse.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:09 PM
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136: Nope. The stall.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:10 PM
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I wish I was the flophouse.

I, more modest, wish only that you used the subjunctive.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:10 PM
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132: Well now there's a surprise.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:11 PM
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139: Well now there's a surprise.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:12 PM
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The problem with the toilet blowjob is that its (ball)cock is located in that tank of water.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:13 PM
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Damn you, punctuation.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:13 PM
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139: yes, we all have dreams. Were mine as prosaic and humble as yours are, I would be a happy man.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:13 PM
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I should a) go to bed, as has the rest of the flophouse, or b) drink merrily and dive into the new emmylou harris duets record I bought today. Or c) drink heavily and comment here all night, and perhaps also make an ass of myself via text message.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:16 PM
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I refuse to believe we live in such a beautiful world that the ballcock was actually invented by Thomas Crapper, as per Wikipedia's claim.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:17 PM
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145: You're asking us? What is the likelihood anyone will say anything other than c?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:18 PM
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drunk drunk drunk.

spencer's potato salad: roasted potatoes with onion and rosemary and a, i think, parsley-basil mayo dressing. star of the night, besides kriston's million pounds of brisket, pork, whatever. we talked about the toilet BJ thing again. it will be reenacted. but it is impossible to do without falling off toilet. you all come to next flophouse bbq. we heart unfogged.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:18 PM
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145: And don't forget drunk dialing, 'Smasher. The classics are classic for a reason!

But no, no, you can't have my number.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:18 PM
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126 to 148.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:19 PM
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145: (c) is so obvious as to be laughable.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:19 PM
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we talked about the toilet BJ thing again. it will be reenactedvlogged.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:20 PM
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I don't has phone! So I can't call, uh, spencer? I also don't has prospects.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:21 PM
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Why don't you has a phone?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:21 PM
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Aioli, Catherine, aioli.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:21 PM
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Now, 152 is definitely how you build an audience.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:21 PM
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Although whenever I hear aioli I think areola and giggle.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:22 PM
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I should a) go to bed my computer, as has the rest of the flophouse


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:22 PM
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Catherine drowned it.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:23 PM
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I don't care if you're drunk, Becks, there's no such thing as Catherine aïoli.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:23 PM
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To be fair, I'm in bed on my computer.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:23 PM
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aoiili.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:23 PM
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There probably is such a thing as Catherine areola, not that I'd know.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:24 PM
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Catherine drowned your phone while getting a Becksjob, right? That's gotta sting.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:25 PM
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159: was this during the reënactments?


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:25 PM
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If you lived here, you'd know. She basically refuses to wear a top when she's at the house, always applying to the "sports bra" defense.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:25 PM
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Don't you cover the keyboard?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:25 PM
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To be clear: it's offensive, and a subject of debate.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:26 PM
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166: way to increase your lurkstalker quotient by an order of magnitude, Smashbro.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:26 PM
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Don't you cover the keyboard?

Yes, but usually not with splooge.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:26 PM
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164 a sexy, sexy pwn of 165.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:27 PM
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Even worse, a good deal of the pity was self-pity.

Yes, that was clear.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:29 PM
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Yeah, those topless beauty-contest winners. Offensive.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:29 PM
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168: Oh, chill out. She's got nothing you haven't seen before, and it's her *home*. You're lucky she isn't wandering around naked and picking her nose in front of you.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:30 PM
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Yeah, Kriston thinks it's offensive for the girls of the Flophouse (well, Catherine, really) to walk around wearing only a sports bra and shorts and that more clothing should be required.

Kriston - were you also offended by the coverup I was wearing when you ran into me in the hall last night?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:30 PM
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174: the vlog ideas are coming fast and thick tonight!

175: did you have the sandals and sunglasses, too?


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:32 PM
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I'm way hoping Becks had the sandals.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:32 PM
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A little, yes. If only because I'm so used to you doing the right and responsible thing: wearing a robe, as all good roommates should. Also, merlot red? Scandalous, Becks.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:33 PM
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Sounds like Catherine's giving the Smashman blue balls, but the Smashman doesn't want to say so. Catherine, cover yourself! You'll give him nut cancer if you don't.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:34 PM
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Smasher: objectively a prude.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:34 PM
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I rather imagine Becks striding around the hallways late at night like Zsa Zsa Gabor, until a muttering, dishevelled Armsmasher runs into her, sending his pile of dusty art books clattering to the floor.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:34 PM
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179: OSTMWHYB.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:35 PM
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182: but it's not even close to christmas!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:37 PM
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It's not merlot red. It's strawberry.

Also: I can't see how that's a special sale price when it's twice what I paid earlier in the summer. Oh Victoria's Secret. How you suck.

Also also: yes, I'm good about wearing a robe when walking down the hall but I'm also the bad roommate who will continue to wear that robe for half the morning and have long conversations downstairs in said robe with my hair in a towel turban.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:38 PM
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Wearing robes all day is a proud and honorable tradition of multi-roommate living.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:39 PM
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I say that if your living situation precludes you from lounging around naked all day like a civilized human being, you should at least be able to lounge around in a robe.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:40 PM
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186: Hear, hear.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:41 PM
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The sarong is an important piece of gear for mixed-gender living.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:41 PM
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166: I HATE YOU!. this is what happened: i got home from a 9 mile run saturday am and was putting around in my room, yes, in my sports bra, like 9am, when armsmasher got out of the shower in his grody robe and knocked on my door to chat about something and i opened the door and he was all like D00d cover yourself and then i punched him in the groin. and YES sometimes i wear a sports bra while CLEANING THE HOUSE bc the only time i have energy to clean the house is after runs and I HATe you1. also my shift key is broken.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:41 PM
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No harm in robe chat. It's catherine, with the strip houseclean, that I cannot abide.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:41 PM
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Solution: clean the house yourself! Everyone wins.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:42 PM
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It's catherine, with the strip houseclean, that I cannot abide.

My hypothesis: confirmed!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:43 PM
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Better yet, Smasher, clean the house in your longhorn undies.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:44 PM
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Smasher, I don't think you're going to win anyone over with your "I wish my female roommate wouldn't clean our house for three hours wearing only a sports bra" argument.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:44 PM
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Armsmasher rivals AWB and ogged in the "unfogged commenters whose sexual mores I find utterly mystifying" sweepstakes.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:44 PM
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195: I can has medal?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:46 PM
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yeah poor smasher, walking around with his female roomies in hot nighties and sports bras. poor boy. i will end you.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:46 PM
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Also, I've seen Smasher clean house wearing skimpy clothes before. And not even at his own house! I'll be sure to upload the pics (and there are pics) to the Unfogged pool.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:47 PM
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'Smasher thinks of Catherine like a sister. Not having had sisters myself, that would never work for me.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:47 PM
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I'll be sure to upload the pics (and there are pics) to the Unfogged pool.

YESSSSS!!!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:48 PM
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Yes, but Megan made me breakfast, and she also fixed my pants.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:49 PM
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Not having had sisters myself

Though not for lack of trying.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:49 PM
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198: right! smasher wears PORN SHORTS! ugh. porn shorts. if somehow unfogged could stop him wearing those i would owe my life to the site.


Posted by: catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:49 PM
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She recognized the beauty of the market at work; why can't you?


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:50 PM
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(Catherine: throw them out. That's what I did with Mr. B.'s.)


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:50 PM
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This must be some reverse psychology shit because I'm tempted to start walking around the house in even skimpier nighties now.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:51 PM
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Geez, Smasher, not sure about those.

(NSF*, inc. W)


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:52 PM
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Becks sure doesn't seem very Becks-style.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:53 PM
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We're gonna need a bigger boat.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:53 PM
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Oh, we can do escalation, Becks. I want a wholesome home, but that doesn't mean I'm afraid of the nuclear option. In pink and green.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:53 PM
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Becks has to get up at 4 AM for work tomorrow. Becks shouldn't be awake right now, let alone on the internet.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:54 PM
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207 to 210, miraculously.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:54 PM
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First person in a thong wins.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:55 PM
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I win!


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:56 PM
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Oh. A thong. Thought you meant thongs like flipflops.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 9:59 PM
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The nuclear option, redefined.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:01 PM
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Honestly, who wants a protruding prosthetic vulva?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:03 PM
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215: So I guess that means I win.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:08 PM
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218 to 217.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:11 PM
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No, seriously. Who wants a protruding prosthetic vulva? I've got, like, three here.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:12 PM
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The problem with scantily dressed roommates is that they disturb the asexual buddy quality of the roommate relationship. Nobody wants to leer at their roomate, although it would make a great Unfogged thread.

SUMMER IS NOW OFFICIALLY OVER. WE ARE NOW TEN MINUTES INTO THE NEW YEAR.

Also, what are porn shorts?


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:14 PM
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What's Bred in the Bone is a pretty good book, peopoe.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:14 PM
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Also, what are porn shorts?

five- to fifteen-minute movies intended to get the viewer hot and bothered, usu. without any artistic or aesthetic intent. Armsmasher wears the film around his crotch as a charm against chastity.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:16 PM
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Also, what are porn shorts?

Porn shorts.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:16 PM
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220 makes 219 so true. I'll take two.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:16 PM
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Video installation, IYKWIM, and I think Ben does.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:17 PM
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Video installation, IYKWIM, and I think Ben does.

Guy Maddin should look into this.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:18 PM
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You know how you'll be reading a comment thread and notice some dude taking a position that doesn't quite cohere with his other views, or defending a claim in an unusually robust way?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:19 PM
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I'm sure he's way ahead of you, ben.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:19 PM
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228: yes, it's called "pitching a tent."


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:20 PM
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I admit it, Becks: I'm just trying to get in the pants of our resident Robertson Davies fans, whoever they may be (I have a de dicto interest in these individuals).


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:22 PM
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I'll take two.

One for each underarm?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:24 PM
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228: You're right. I think catherine really does have a thing for these shorts of mine.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:24 PM
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232: I am unlikely to get the phrase "camel pit" out of my head tonight, you bastard.

233: they aren't really porn shorts, though. They should be tighter.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:26 PM
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232: One for church, one for the office.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:26 PM
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234b: Yeah, a friend of mine keeps a pair on hand that are much shorter and tighter. He uses them as a way to see if the girl he's dating is really into him or not. A few weeks ago, I advised him to wear them everywhere. Because I care!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:29 PM
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It never occurred to me that the stupid things I say on the internet might have any bearing whatsoever on where my dick goes. If, indeed, they do, my question is this: did it hurt?


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:31 PM
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Those are gonna come back in a big way, just you wait. All board short-wearin' suckers are going to be chafing for the high-and-tight look.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:32 PM
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236 to 220.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:34 PM
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Need more Pacific time zone commenters.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:41 PM
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I can't decide if it's sad or awesome that apparently the denizens of the flophouse are sitting around drunk, each on his or her own personal laptop, interacting on Unfogged.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:41 PM
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Sad for them, awesome for us.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:42 PM
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Smasher is clearly a big ol' homo, because everybody knows girls look cute in sports bras. Also cute: towel turbans.

216: That is some funny shit.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:42 PM
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Dude, Armsmasher, you're gayer than an actual gay man. That's pretty gay.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:45 PM
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243 seems self-contradicting.


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231
Like the Deptford trilogy the best, but
I don't think I'm your type.


Posted by: joel hanes | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:47 PM
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our resident Robertson Davies fans

Me! Me! But the joke's on you because I'm not wearing pants.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:49 PM
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I'm not wearing pants

That's okay, as long as you're wearing a sports bra.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:50 PM
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247: no need, with the handy Toe Belt!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:50 PM
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Aside from What's Bred in the Bone, which I'm only just now finishing, the Deptford Trilogy is the only of his works I've read. In fact, I wrote one of my essays on the AP English test way back in the 20th century on Fifth Business.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:52 PM
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The rest of the Cornish Trilogy is fantastic.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:54 PM
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I wrote one of my essays on the AP English test

Ben is banned.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:54 PM
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But why?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:54 PM
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You're banned. The reason is self-explanatory to any self-respecting commenter.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:55 PM
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I have never had the effrontery to respect myself. I demand an account.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:56 PM
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Unfogged frowns on education of any type.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:57 PM
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I personally frown on talking about your AP exams for more than 24 hours after they're finished. And certainly on remembering what the fuck you wrote about. And most certainly on actually telling people what you wrote about.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:58 PM
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I personally frown on talking about your AP exams for more than 24 hours after they're finished.

Not without taking a drink of water now and then, anyway.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 10:59 PM
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If you had written your AP English exams while fending off flesh-eating zombies or something, that would presumably be different.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:01 PM
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I look forward to your post inviting everyone to compare SAT scores.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:01 PM
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I answered a question on AP Physics B with "How 'bout those Knicks?"


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:02 PM
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259: Right, but then it's a story about zombies, not about your stupid exams.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:02 PM
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I personally frown on talking about your AP exams for more than 24 hours after they're finished.

You know, for underprivileged people, taking the AP exam is a big deal. Being down with the gente myself, it saddens me to see people taking it for granted and scorning those for whom it is a noteworthy accomplishment.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:03 PM
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Goddammit, where is Labs when I need someone to back me up on the toolishness of talking about your high school academic successes?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:03 PM
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It's sufficiently toolish that even notorious tools such as myself don't do it. Yeesh.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:04 PM
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Vindication. I'm going to bed.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:05 PM
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I din't take no AP exams. All y'all poindexters is welcome to fight mah bear down in the quarry mine.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:05 PM
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Tools are not always the best judges of etiquette, you know.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:06 PM
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I am sufficiently out of food that earlier tonight I ate a few spoonfuls of breadcrumbs straight from the container, but I just now realized that my refrigerator is out of beer. This is unacceptable.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:07 PM
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I drove my #2 pencil deep into the zombie's cerebellum, certain the minor bite would not be enough to make me change.

"Thank god we have AP Anatomy and Physiology at this magnet school. It helped me know where in the braaaaiiins...."


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:07 PM
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Goddammit, where is Labs when I need someone to back me up on the toolishness of talking about your high school academic successes?

So who said I succeeded?

You seem to be under the impression that I was in any important sense talking about my ap exams, and not merely relating something related to the subject of conversation that I happened to have remembered earlier in the day (when reading the top of my edition of WBitB, advertising Davies as the author of the Deptford trilogy), and further under the impression that one can draw up a table of toolish behaviors quite apart from the circumstances of their performance, which is, of course, bosh, though I suppose in keeping with your (crude) anti-intentionalism.

259: Right, but then it's a story about zombies, not about your stupid exams.

I was establishing the rough time period in which I read the Deptford trilogy. I honestly don't understand why you're so up in arms.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:07 PM
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263: Funny you should mention that, because I had to climb across a raging river to take my AP English exams. And I wrote my essay in Elamite cuneiform on the subject of Finnegan's Wake, bitches, all while fighting off a group of zombie ninjas. Take that.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:09 PM
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I wrote all of my AP language exams simultaneously, in Volapük. ∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:11 PM
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I assume you're referring to a novel, Doc, but to the best of my knowledge there are only folk songs by that name.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:11 PM
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Fuck, I fear I've incurred the wrath of grammarians.


Posted by: James Joyce | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:12 PM
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I wrote my AP exams in the blood of my enemies.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:12 PM
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Slolernr: unmasked.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:15 PM
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They were not amused.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:15 PM
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273 is excellent.

274: Who knows but that the novel in question is a folk song in its own way. At least, such was my argument, mostly on the strength of the Sordid Sam passage.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:16 PM
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273 is great, and I have to wonder how tightly it ties into the novel I just finished today.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:18 PM
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But there is no apostrophe in the novel's title. You see.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:18 PM
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The parallelization of subject novels in this thread confuses endlessly.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:19 PM
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275 to 281.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:20 PM
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I hate you all on principle regardless of your prior successes and failures. But that's because I'm in a lousy fucking mood. You bastards.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:28 PM
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If I had any beer, I'd give you one.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:30 PM
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Jake is excepted. I pour some of this gin out for him and all my other homies, be where they may.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:31 PM
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284: all failures. Beer 2 U. Who loves ya, babe?


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:34 PM
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Hey, I should end all my comments with a bunch of "therefore" symbols. That must be what made that comment so enjoyable.∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴∴


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:34 PM
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Sadly, I think there is a SAT or maybe GRE thread somewhere in the archives, likely attached to an unrelated post.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:45 PM
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I got a million.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:47 PM
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I thought there were limits to the number of times you could take the tests.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:50 PM
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245: you mean sports bras and towel turbans? I don't think so. I didn't say wearing them *at the same time* would be cute.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09- 3-07 11:53 PM
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Are there sports turbans and towel bras?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 12:02 AM
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I don't know, but searching for "sports turbans" brought me to this.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 12:10 AM
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Not that you aren't doing perfectly well at destroying unfogged on your (collective) own, but I thought I might introduce a further degradation:

Jacoby Ellsbury, bitches. He saved a game we never should have won. Do we have the best outfield in the majors? Sweet jesus, I believe we do, and that includes Manny. Ain't a man alive who can play the monster like Manny. If our roation could come to its senses we'd cruise into the WS. As it is, I see us getting knocked out by the Angels,.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 12:40 AM
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I can't believe I wasted time reading this fucking thread on this fucking dating service.

m, i did, however, almost chuckle one time


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 1:18 AM
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#24: there is doubtless a female version of this same phenomenon.

"She's different with boys".


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 4:15 AM
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I too am a Robertson Davies fan.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 5:45 AM
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Sadly, I think there is a SAT or maybe GRE thread somewhere in the archives, likely attached to an unrelated post.

I seem to remember that. Y'all are some sad fuckers.

you mean sports bras and towel turbans?

No, dork, I mean you saying girls are cute wearing X, and then claiming that Smasher's not noticing this makes him gay. Either not noticing cute girls makes you gay, or knowing what looks cute on girls makes you gay: you can't have it both ways.

I think it's a rule in the Gay 101 handbook.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 8:44 AM
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the Gay 101 handbook

The MANual.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 8:47 AM
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Excuse me, blog proprietors? Do I get a present or something when B takes my bait?

And all of a sudden, look who's Victorian (you can't have it both ways.)


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 9:56 AM
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Eeeeuhhhehhhhhuuuuuuugggh.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 10:14 AM
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I'd send you a present, C., but I'm sure I don't have the fabulous taste that would be required to pick something appropriate.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 10:28 AM
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Are you sure? My coffee table has this dreadful unfabulous spot crying out for a knickknack.


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