Re: Keillor

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Lovely bit of Real audio? An oxymoron no?


Posted by: sp160n | Link to this comment | 09- 4-07 11:22 PM
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Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 7:28 AM
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I havent listened to this audio piece, but count me down as someone who enjoys PHC. We go to see it at Wolf Trap every year.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 7:39 AM
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I tried to listen to it, Ben. That voice, though! RRRRRG! If there's one thing that grates on me more than the NPR-ready voice of "lean up to the mic and whisper," it's someone mocking someone leaning up to the mic and whispering.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 7:41 AM
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Bloomberg: "U.S. Senator Larry Craig, who was arrested in an airport restroom in June, is reconsidering his decision to resign on Sept. 30, his spokesman said. Craig is 'fighting these charges and should he be cleared before then, he may, and I emphasize may, not resign,' spokesman Dan Whiting said in an e-mail late yesterday."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:16 AM
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Heh. I so do not understand that. The point isn't the guilty plea, the point is that he was obviously cruising for sex in a bathroom.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:18 AM
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John Cole gets it right. And I mean really gets it right. What does Craig have to lose right now?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:20 AM
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Oh, if he did that, I'd be rooting for him despite his partisan affiliation. But he's not going to, is he? I assume that withdrawing the guilty plea will be part of a campaign of denying that any such thing happened.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:22 AM
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In today's debased era I would define cowardice not necessarily as being a coward, but as being a coward when you gain nothing from it.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:24 AM
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I think Craig is getting some sympathy from people who think seeking sex shouldnt be criminalized.

But, it will be interesting to see how people react when Craig starts bashing gay sex and denying that he has sexual contact with other men.

Wasnt there some release of old FBI interviews where he denied being gay or in a gay relationship?

The voice mail shows his willingness to parse words. (not surprising) There will be increased parsing of his message about not being gay not equally not having a penis in his mouth.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:26 AM
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Do we think Craig actually believes his own impulses are destructive to society and should be banned? It's quite possible.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:31 AM
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Craig can do whatever he wants now, because everybody will be talking about this instead.

So that's all right.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 8:36 AM
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Do we think Craig actually believes his own impulses are destructive to society and should be banned?

Or do publicly homophobic closet-cases in positions of power think that the law isn't really for them, it's for everyone else? You know, just as Paul Wolfowitz thinks corruption is bad except when Paul Wolfowitz commits it.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 10:09 AM
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12. There's no way people aren't talking about this.

I initially thought Craig's reconsideration might be a Jerry McQuire moment that would last a couple of days. But he's lawyered up on both the Senate and Minneapolis fronts, and that alone could push momentum. Resigning in total disgrace can't be better for him than going down fighting.


Posted by: terpbball | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 10:17 AM
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I was going to click on OFE's link in 12, but then I saw it went to some sort of foreign site. I think it's safe to say that, if it's being covered by foreigners, it's probably not worth talking about.

Except for Amy Winehouse updates, of course!


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 10:51 AM
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15 Only that the Germans have just stopped a couple of white German guys blowing up two US air bases.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 11:06 AM
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Mindbogglingly enough, through policing. It's almost as if policing could be an effective way of dealing with terrorism, rather than, say, leveling Hamburg from 40,000 ft.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 11:07 AM
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Yeah, I know. The Germans, the Spanish, the Brits. You'd think somebody would get it right.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 11:09 AM
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How about this:

Lawyers for Sen. Larry Craig asked the Senate ethics committee Wednesday to reject a complaint based on the Idaho Republican's guilty plea in a police undercover operation in an airport men's room, saying the events were "wholly unrelated" to official duties.

"Assertion of jurisdiction over this matter by the committee would be literally unprecedented and would create deleterious consequences for the Senate as a whole," the lawyers wrote.

Let's see, how did Larry Craig vote on Clinton's impeachment? You know the answer, of course, but his statement on the matter is particularly delicious:

But I would submit that if a generation of young people are taught by our actions in this case that a lie carries no consequences, then the nation is at risk. [...] On the first day of this trial, as I watched the Chief Justice take the chair, I was angry--profoundly angry that this president had brought this nation to this point because of his own self-gratification, setting what was good for himself above what was good for the nation. It is unconscionable what the president has put the country through, continues to put the country through, and will continue to put the country through for his own personal and political ends.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 11:12 AM
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Mindbogglingly enough, through policing. It's almost as if policing could be an effective way of dealing with terrorism, rather than, say, leveling Hamburg from 40,000 ft.

that made me laugh.

Shocking! Police work solving something?!?!?!

I love it when we hear that the police have been monitoring these guys 24/7 and, as a result, uncovered two statements of "I'd like to blow up those m-fer Americans," plus two trips to the gas station to fill up a tank of gas. MAJOR PLOT FOILED!!!!


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 11:14 AM
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Give Craig props for contracting out his "naughty, bad, nasty boy" speech to Monty Python.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 11:27 AM
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I know it's not going to happen, but if came out of the closet, even just to say "I love my wife, but I've been attracted to men my whole life," he would be my hero for ever.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 12:09 PM
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Re: whether Americans will pay attention to the German bomb plot.

I bet this will get a lot of attention amongst the limited portion of the population that is actually serving in the war. People who have had an injured loved one shipped back to Ramstein will feel a personal connection to the place, or at least recognize the name. The rest of the country, though, can just write it off as "some foreign place."


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 12:14 PM
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See a tongue-in-cheek visual of Senator Craig taking a new stance...here:

www.thoughttheater.com


Posted by: Daniel DiRito | Link to this comment | 09- 5-07 1:02 PM
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