Re: In which I certainly do not judge anyone

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Having one's initials embroidered on one's underwear still strikes me as tacky, no matter how subtly it is done.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:30 PM
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Having one's initials embroidered on one's underwear any article of clothing still strikes me as tacky, no matter how subtly it is done.

Fixed.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:37 PM
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Ageist.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:38 PM
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I click on the link to the purported Carrie Brownstein blog, and it says "Document contains no data".


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:40 PM
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I click on the link and it takes me to her post.

The wonders of the world—the differences between different people—these varied environments—it's inspiring.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:43 PM
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The underwear of my mind has my last name written on the waist band in permanent marker.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:44 PM
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Works for me too.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:44 PM
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So you've got a complicated sort of singalong--say it's "Sam Hall", how along to which the audience on Thompson's 1000 Years of Popular Music probably would not have known without instruction--suddenly you aren't self-sufficient as an artist?

I ask you, is this a good sentence?

Is this not a sentence that, like Tristam Shandy, has unfortunate scars from the forceps that were used in its birth?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:50 PM
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Haven't the foggiest about what you're talking, my good fellow.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:51 PM
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Now it works.

But if for anyone out there, it does not actually take you to the NPR blog but merely replaces the Unfogged black-white-gray logo with an NPR logo...you are not unique. I was once like you.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:51 PM
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Tristam s/b Tristram, of course.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:53 PM
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And Tristram s, in turn, b Trismegistus.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:54 PM
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11: Huh, so it s. I hadn't realized that was how it was spelled, and I've even read the damn thing.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 8:58 PM
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Now it works

If the corrected version includes "how to sing along to which" I think this proves my point.

Am I allowed to call that sentence "precious"?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 9:06 PM
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"Now it works" was in reference to the link, which actually always worked.

You're allowed to do just any little old thing you like, dearie.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 9:09 PM
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But you should know that "how to sing along to which" is probably an improvement, by your impoverished lights, on "how along to which to sing", to which I was momentarily inclined.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 9:10 PM
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When I am at an overly precious show, I am often filled with contrarian, immature urges: suddenly banging a gong, stepping on a whoopee cushion, or knocking some vegans together to start a mosh pit.

Isn't it more traditional to throw beer bottles?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 9:46 PM
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they have a staging director who helps them come up with stagings for some pieces in their repertoire... I think both of the Nancarrow arrangements

I can't imagine without dread any combination of arrangement and staging of the Nancarrow studies. The very thought is a skid mark on the underwear of my mind.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 9:59 PM
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Ben w-lfs-n's style resembles Daniil Charms
just had a thought on reincarnation :)
and i like his non-judgementality
and i enjoyed his music compilations, thanks
http://www.danielcharms.com/charms/plays/play31.html


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 10:13 PM
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Is Alarm Will Sound performing Nancarrow now? They weren't when I saw them. They did perform the Aphex Twin material--I didn't think it worked exactly, possibly because Aphex Twin is, finally, machine music, and humans just can't keep up with it, but it wasn't remotely precious.

I'm going to bed, so I won't do it now, but at some future point I/we should parse the difference between "precious" and "twee." Oddly, Joanna Newsome, say, puts me off a little precisely because she seems too precious; but there's a whole range of "twee"--from Sarah records to Antony Hegarty that I tolerate and even adore.

I'm not prepared to say why this is.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 11:05 PM
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jesus if i wanted to read a book, i'd nodt be srufing the web right nwo.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 12- 1-07 11:31 PM
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I can't imagine without dread any combination of arrangement and staging of the Nancarrow studies. The very thought is a skid mark on the underwear of my mind.

The first one they performed (I have, alas, lost the program) actually did border on the too cute. The other one was a lot better. If they come to Portland I recommend checking them out.

The staging is the movements of the musicians themselves, I should say, if it isn't obvious.

Populuxe: I haven't heard any of the AFX stuff that Alarm Will Sound does, so I can't compare their renditions to the originals, but I do think their "Cock/Ver 10" is pretty great.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 12:57 AM
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20:Into the process moving my Sarah catalogue back onto the harddrive. Watched The Dealabout Blair & Brown the other night. The way I figure, these lifetime commies establishing a label to produce & promote ephemeral almost adolescent sweet love pop at the end of the Thatcher era is a ironic political statement too deep for we callow Americans to do more than gawk at. A subversive leap past the Clash & Public Enemy. Like, like Billy Bragg singing "Ballad of the Green Beret" or something. Like a black Pat Boone impersonator.

But I find U2 precious. "I still can't find what I'm looking for" "In the name of Love" Songs to MLK. Good grief.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 1:21 AM
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Bob, have you heard Negativland's "U2"?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 1:22 AM
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(Negativland's U2. That's the letter "2" and the numeral "u".)


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 1:24 AM
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Maybe the line about The Deal might not compute, but I should think after Thatcher, the chirpy ernest of Blair would have been unbearable. Imagine if Bush wasn't a real asshole but sincere and honest instead of cynical and disgenuous. Abandon all hope.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 1:25 AM
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The versions of Aphex Twin stuff I've heard from them, I didn't massively rate.

The Aluminiium stuff [a similar take on the music of the White Stripes by Joby Talbot and orchestra] works better for me.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 2:29 AM
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re: 26

Indeed.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 2:31 AM
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since Ogged is ED (emotionally distant, alas) and plagued with many and different gfs
may i ask you, Ben w-lfs-n, to be an object of my next worshipmanship and dedicate to you my little and precious offerings from time to time and follow your linguistic guidance, please?
the above activity won't spread beyond these spheres, of course
but no, people who do not appreciate Charms
are certainly off the list, alas again


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 7:42 AM
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15: Perhaps the link always worked, but the URL it linked to has had spotty periods of unavailability, much like your mom.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 10:40 AM
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worshipmanship

I note that Stephen Potter has not written about this, so the field remains open for a pioneering study.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 10:48 AM
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I wonder if Carrie's post wasn't a roundabout way of saying "I don't like Cat Power." Are there other performers to whom these apply:

"soft-spoken stage banter that trails off and is quickly followed by a cutesy smile, which for some reason garners huge cheers from the audience; being so nervous on stage that someone in the crowd has to yell "you can do it!" or "we love you" (exception made here for child performers)"


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:02 AM
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Read, you are most welcome to do so.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:03 AM
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Ben, are your familiar with the movie Play Misty for Me? You might go rent it. Now.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:06 AM
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Kh/Charms is awesome. Read, are you Russian?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:06 AM
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32: xiu Xiu?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:06 AM
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I have seen Xiu Xiu twice and he didn't do that, but what do I know.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:08 AM
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Early in his career, maybe.

Cat Power doesn't do it anymore either.

I've never been at a show where the people on stage were so unconfident in that way, so I don't know.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:10 AM
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no, i am not
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now i'm reluctant
to worship who gives permissions to worship
editing of incomplete sentences is welcome though



Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:18 AM
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now i'm reluctant

to worship who gives permissions to worship

Then you shouldn't have asked.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:23 AM
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I refuse to allow you to worship me, read. Although I suppose if you do it secretly and against my will, it'll be hard to punish you.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:25 AM
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You see? You see?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:27 AM
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Ned, you need to watch Misty too. Vintage Clint.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:28 AM
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sorry, Ben w-lfs-n
i am just kidding and i'll continue to worship you for the quickest response
i'm glad i asked


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:31 AM
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cryptic ned fyi i dont worhsip you
etc


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:32 AM
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مع السلامة


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:38 AM
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That's too bad, because I think I might have some stigmata acting up. I woke up and there was a strange scratch/cut right down the inside of my arm. No, no cats in the house.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:39 AM
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you see you see comment was unworshippable
clad by what?


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:55 AM
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iron


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 11:59 AM
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Wait, I wrote what? A link please? (I'm guessing it's the Kafka/Ashbery post, but seriously, I shouldn't be so inscrutable, you know, to myself.)


Posted by: SEK | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 12:37 PM
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You wrote about the coarse underwear of some minds.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 12:39 PM
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Wow, I so don't remember 2005. Apparently, I had time to read for pleasure.

Those were the days.


Posted by: SEK | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 12:45 PM
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I don't have the slightest idea what a single word of this post means. Literally, not one. Is it actually written in a completely foreign language which happens to use all English cognates?


Posted by: DhuAlQarnayn | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 7:22 PM
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23-25: 'These guy are from England and who gives a shit'.
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A Blixa Bargeld moment:

Q: People come out for the shows now expecting the jack hammers and pyrotechnics but you've said 'that's
silly to expect that from us nowadays.'

A: Well, it was silly to expect that from us at any time. I think nobody should expect ANYTHING from us!
(laughs) I was asked 'so you don't destroy things on stage anymore?' I said 'we do destroy the
preconceptions of our audience.'


Posted by: Econolicious aka Anonymous D | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 7:24 PM
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Get the fuck out of here or Gog and Magog will roast your ass, Dhul. They've been looking for a rematch for a long time.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 7:27 PM
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You must be pretty stupid, Dhu.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12- 2-07 8:41 PM
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I agree with Carrie Brownstein.

I saw Vashti Bunyan and the audience reaction was hard to take. People were too emotionally invested in a weird way.

Part of the problem was that a full concert of slower tempo music doesn't come across well to me. Even things like Boris or Cecil Taylor tend to make me sleepy.


Posted by: Lemmy Caution | Link to this comment | 12- 3-07 2:29 PM
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People were too emotionally invested in a weird way.

By contrast, the best concert I've ever attended was one in which the audience was both really alert to the music, and willing to follow the performance in any emotional direction without needing prompting.

It was amazing at the point at which the performer didn't need to try to package or set up the changes in mood, but could just play things and the audience followed them wherever they went.

I don't go to many concerts, but that one spoiled me a bit.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 12- 3-07 2:43 PM
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