Wow, I've thought that such a list would be nice, but had no intention of compiling it. Thanks, man.

A few more of mine:

Take Back The Knecht (file is gone, track list is up)

Blues From Wrongshore (same)

The sendspace files are still up for my Xmas mixes, but I can't find the link in the comments. Here they are again with art.

Thanks! I've downloaded up most of them but it was always hard to find in the comment threads.

Is there any interest in more Christmas mix uploading? I've got one I can throw into the stew.

Apo - Don't Bogart That Groove

Wrongshore, your "take back the knecht" link actually goes to the blues tracklist.

And more from the groove-bogarting thread:

DS: The Guilt, Folly and Sources of Suicide.
Sifu: Wha?!?
Sifu: Yea!!

You gonna add those four to the post for easy access?

Also, thanks a million for pulling this together. I'd missed a couple of those the first time around.

I should really oughta make the dance mix for DCon I've been promising. Will work on that today. Promise!

Also I suppose I could reupload the ones that are no longer available. If people wanted that. And I knew which were no longer available. And I wasn't surpassingly lazy.

I was going to link to Take Back the Knecht, but I see Wrongshore already did that.

12: But he didn't. See 6.

4: Yes, there is.

6: Take Back The Knecht.

I am starting my day with "apomerica".

"Spelling it 'Phat' is Deprecated" is great. More from NattarGcM, please.

That is a great one.

Awesome, the thread I needed at exactly the right time. I've got a hangover and the flu right now, not sure where one's ending and the other's beginning. Long disgusting story cut short: I'm not leaving this bed anytime soon.

Time to listen to mixes and put together a couple 2007 mixes. Probably one dance and one indie rock / other.

re: 15

Thanks. I may try to get something together [I may do an 'in absentia' imaginary dance mix for the DC con].

This is excellent, ben, thanks. And 4: yes! Definitely!

Cool! So that's how I max out the bandwidth on my cable modem!

Many thanks for the pointers. Yes, Sifu, some people do want you to reupload the files for those of yours that are missing. Also, yes yes yes to an in absentia mix from ttaM.

Sifu - Could you reupload the What?! and Yea!! mixes? Pretty please?

On it.

Hurray! I take it you'll put the new links up in this thread?

Yep. Uploading now. Also working on the dancey dancey mix; could be a bit for that one.

I know what you mean. That's why I never seem to finish these mixes that I start. Damn, there was a lot of good music to select from in 2007.

And way too much that I haven't even given a few good listens to yet.

I'm thinking of doing a Ken Vandermark mix, even though I don't have a very large proportion of his (admittedly quite large) discography.

Updated link for Wha?! in effect.

Smile mix is really sweet, Ogged. Just perfect for the afternoon. Missed it the first time through.

Updated link for Yea!!> also in effect.

Does anyone know if there is a track list for DS's huge extravaganza archive? There's 320MB in 6 mixes, and I'd love to know what I'mm gettin' into.

Smile mix is really sweet, Ogged.

Thanks!

Ogged, you terrible person you.

Sorry, JM. Her shift ends in a few minutes and she renewed her vow to find the blog.

Unfogged: "It was all just a dream. And you were there, AWB, and you were there, Jackmormon, and you were too, asshole!"

33: who, B?

How did you respond to this threat? Was it "tee-hee, you'll never find me!", "oh, no, please don't", or "love me, love my blog"?

I smiled and said "you're welcome to try."

Ogged made sure it was understood that she is not welcome to succeed.

But she's probably going to find it, right? Seriously, man, this dating thing isn't all it's cracked up to be. Take a step back, consider what you're losing. There is no "I" in "blog," you know!

34: ROFL

Since the official record has disappeared, I'm not sure if my last thoughts were captured or not, so let me say this in response to LB:

I guess I can't win. I was called an asshole, and when I accept that it may well be because it's true, this is cause for further suspicion...

The fact that my comments provoked such an intense response obviously says something about me - something not positive. I can get reflexively defensive about it or I can be open to the possibility that I was wrong and/or that maybe I'm an asshole. I've tried to clarify or walk back a bit of what I've said; I'm sorry if this didn't come across as contrite enough.

I can't own up to everything that has been ascribed to me, because I don't think it was necessarily a fair representation of what I said (and I know some of it was not representative of what I *meant*). But I can accept that I was wrong and/or obnoxious.

This leaves me perplexed, though, as to why you think it's impossible for me to have changed my mind (without ascribing ulterior motives) as a result of that thread. If you don't think it's possible for someone to genuinely change their mind through discussion, then what is the point of having them except for show?

I was about to question how she could possibly find this blog, and then I googled the two most basic facts about ogged. What do you know, fifth hit.

McKingford, probably best just to let it go.

Are you telling me not to date or not to blog the dates?

43: Or not to date the blog?

We've enjoyed the non-dating blog. Why mess with a good thing?

Are you trying to save all the hot Persian action for yourself, JM?

45: It'll be like how Moonlighting came crashing to an end as soon as Bruce Willis and Cybil Shepard finally got together....

No, no, I'm willing to spread the hot Persians around. Just, think of the blog! As Standpipe always says, changebad!

As Standpipe always says said, changebad!

40: I didn't say it was impossible for you to have changed your mind -- I said that being willing to walk away from something you said that was pissing people off in a manner that made it clear that you weren't continuing to endorse it (assuming it wasn't something you were committed to and willing to fight about) was an important quality in not being an asshole. And further said that saying "when I say group of women X are sexually inhibited, I don't mean to say that's a flaw" is unconvincing, along the lines of "I just said you're ugly. I don't know why you're so upset, after all, you are ugly. Nothing wrong with that."

But the latter point is about continued infelicitious phrasing, and I'm sure you didn't mean it as badly as it sounded.

If you thought through and reconsidered some of the stuff you said, that's great. That's most of what anyone needs to not sound like an asshole. I do think it's a fair argument for the value of B's approach to these conversations, as one tool among others, that it had that effect.

What do you know, fifth hit.

Not for me!

Nor for me—eleventh.

Ogged -- On the dating/blog issues generally, if you saw w/d's suggestion for a password protected blog, I wouldn't go there. I'm not sure if I'd defend this, really, but my snap reaction, imagining myself in her shoes: man with a blog he won't tell me where to find, but welcomes me to search for? Fun game. Man with a password-protected blog I can find, but mayn't read? Serious annoyance.

I opened these comments, read 51 first, and thought wow, how'd they get to talking about pot in this thread?

50: B's approach?!? I was totally the one who convinced him the error of his ways. It's unprovably true!

52: I get it at 15th or so -- halfway down the second page. But high enough that you'd find it, anyway.

54: w-lfs-n's hardcore, man!

I have it at the 17th hit when I click on destroyer's search.

When I log out of google to drops to seventeenth.

55: Did anyone save the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem I came up with in that thread? The exact phrasing has slipped my mind.

There should be a special thread where we all say hi to Ogged's new girlfriend when she finds this place.

58 describes my experience and dude, am I ever baked.

60: "and thus, the distribution of zeroes around the critical strip can be most effectively summarized as Fuck You, Clown!"

Until she finds it, I think post and unpublish will work. Afterwards, a cold, wintery silence will descend upon the land, and I will post about nothing but rescuing dogs and feeding the homeless.

So, you're trusting her to spill as soon as she finds it, rather than lurk and collect intelligence? She must be very open and honest.

Why would she tell you as soon as she finds it? Are you so confident that you'll recognize her search terms in the referrer logs?

(Or you could be kinda slow. One or the other.)

Only half-pwned.

Huh, I just assumed she would tell me if she found it, or even ask for confirmation ("will you tell me if I find it?" she asked). I continue to think that.

Ogged obsessively checks ip addresses now?

Soon we will all get emails requesting us to post comments about how Ogged helped the little children find happiness and brought the elderly some momentary joy.

He'll recognize her hostname.

Ogged obsessively checks ip addresses now?

No, actually.

I had similar deals with guys I dated about my blog (they had enough info to find it, but I didn't tell them the address, and told them they could look for it) and they never told me whether they were reading it or not. I didn't like that. I prefer to know, as I did with Max, that he occasionally read the posts, if not the comments.

I will post about nothing but rescuing dogs and feeding the homeless.

And semites.

Are you so confident that you'll recognize her search terms in the referrer logs?

Now, that sounds like a fun game. What search will she use?

It's even worse if she assumes he's talked about dating .... third hit if you add `date' to the mix.

Give us some clues. What did you tell her about the blog?

I've been very vague about what gets posted here.

Ogged obsessively checks ip addresses now?

No, actually.

will, he's just denying that he's obsessively checking them now, not that he hasn't in the past or won't in the very near future. Don't let him off the hook so easily.

I will post about nothing but rescuing dogs and feeding the homeless.

Two activities that are not so unrelated as one might think.

ogged, is `persian swimming blog date' vague enough?

Granted, that's only the 2nd hit not the 1st, so it won't work with feeling lucky

Silly w/d, the wiggle room is in "obsessively."

You still haven't fessed up about the Warren Sapp post, have you?

I stand by the Sapp post!

Until she finds it, I think post and unpublish will work.

So that's the new game, eh? Post, post, unpost, you're it.

So that's the new game, eh? Post, post, masturbate, unpost

55: That's actually pretty true.

Just because I was an asshole does not exclude the possibility that others were too. Faced with that same reaction, say, a year ago, I would likely have dug my heels in and been a bigger asshole than I was - so I don't think it's a particularly convincing way to engage somebody.

And, in deference to those who want me to shut up, I'll make this my last comment (without meaning to discourage further reply or disagreement). But I just don't think saying some people are more open sexually than others is a disparagement, nor anything like saying "I'm sorry you're ugly". That's certainly not how I mean it. I also accept that my impression may a) be unique or mistaken; b) may well be a reflection on me, and how comfortable I make someone else feel about sex (with me).

In response to oudemia's question in that other thread: yes, there is in fact a difference between plus-size condoms and regular ones.

There is nothing -- NOTHING -- so frustrating as trying to lose your virginity and not being able to get the condom on. The next morning we went down to the store and picked up a box of Magnums. Et voila, problem solved.

I think everyone I've slept with since I started the blog was told about the blog. Ogged is a big asshole chicken.

Just because I was an asshole does not exclude the possibility that others were too.

Let a thousand assholes bloom!

Faced with that same reaction, say, a year ago, I would likely have dug my heels in and been a bigger asshole than I was - so I don't think it's a particularly convincing way to engage somebody.

I'm not meaning to chastise you, or anything, just continuing to talk about the meta issues. Who cares if it's the most convincing way to engage anybody? You waltzed into the conversation, and were kind of an asshole. (No hard feelings and all that, just reacting to your initial series of posts.) At that point, we're either in a place where it's just fine to be an asshole, or it isn't. If it isn't, you get banned as a troll, and the polite conversation goes on in your absence. If it is, then someone being an asshole back in your direction isn't out of line at all.

Has he slept with her yet?

ogged, is `persian swimming blog date' vague enough?

You were off by one word, soup.

Why, why, why, is this topic still continuing? Someone, drop it.

I googled the two most basic facts about ogged. What do you know, fifth hit.

Third hit. Adding one single salient detail.

I'd be really happy if the who's oppressing and silencing who conversations didn't happen at all.

There is nothing -- NOTHING -- so frustrating as trying to lose your virginity and not being able to get the condom on.

I am big, like can of Pepsi.

I call shenanigans and/or retardation. Those things can be pulled on to an arm for christ's sakes.

LB is oppressing me.

next time
...morning
finally
I embrace
your shadow

I am big, like can of Pepsi.

An acquantaince of Buck's characterized himself as being 'hung like a tuna can.' Every so often that phrase will drift through my mind and I'll crack up.

78: I've been very vague about what gets posted here.

No worries, it is a lot to keep up with - I can see where you'd resort to skimming.

I'll drop it.

97: Any time, sugar.

Granted, that's only the 2nd hit not the 1st, so it won't work with feeling lucky

So you're saying the success of the endeavor all depends on if she's feeling lucky?

88, 96: Yeah, with all due respect, I just don't get that the difference between plain old Trojans and Magnums is such that one cannot go on at all and the other fits like a, ahem, glove.

OK, I'll admit it.

*I'm* the bass playing lifeguard...

I call shenanigans and/or retardation. Those things can be pulled on to an arm for christ's sakes.

When you're thinking clearly, sure, and when you know how to do it. But when you're eager, and it doesn't just roll down like you're used to (she was the one putting the condom on), it's a different story.

After trying to get it on the third or fourth time we decided to do something a little less challenging.

92: I was trying to give ogged the benefit of the doubt on that one.

103: exactly.

Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., was hung like a tuna can.

I love this page of customer reviews of not the Magnum, but the XL Magnum, with about a quarter of the people saying that they're pretty good, but if only they were a bit bigger...

And, does the decision to click "feeling lucky" or not reflect directly on whether or not she wants to get lucky?

106: Incompetence is more believable, yes.

I think I liked this place better when it was a swimming blog. You're all altogether too sextacular for the likes of me.

OT: Is anyone else following the British canoeist story?

99: I hope he meant short and thick, not square.

OT: Is anyone else following the British canoeist story?

Yeah, they just arrested his wife.

I think everyone I've slept with since I started the blog was told about the blog. Ogged is a big ... chicken.

Your blog is a little different in tone than this place, though. (Different, but both have exactly equally moral/intellectual/literary value -- I love you both exactly the same!!)

If you felt confident that someone could get a pretty accurate, genuine sense of you from your blog, then that's one thing. If you thought the blog could give a distorted picture of you as a total person, you might quite reasonably want the person to have a more rounded picture of you before thinking the blog summed you up.

111: I'd say "not being totally clinical about it" rather than "incompetent", but then again I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt in this situation.

I'm hung like a can of Spam.

From 109, I'm glad to see this got one star, for several reasons:

My erect penis is about average(7 inches long by 2 inches diameter) but the extra room allows for nice movement giving my girlfriend and me great sex.

114: link?

119: Here.

By 115, I'm assuming that a blog that gives an accurate picture of you should be the one you hide?

116: for what it's worth, it's apparently not that hard to roll a normal sized one over something bigger than you are, so that's why I chose `incompetent'. Of course, lack of experience suggests incompetence (at that task). It's not a bad thing. You aren't born with an innate skill at fitting condoms.

118: destroyer, I liked the one where the *girlfriend* wrote in to say that it would have been great for her man if only it was a couple *inches* longer.
What a supportive gal!

122: on the veldt, all condoms were enormous.

I'm assuming that a blog that gives an accurate picture of you should be the one you hide?

That seems bizarre.

I figure anyone who'd be put off by this blog isn't going to last long with Ogged anyways, so nothing lost if she finds it.

I never tried to roll one onto anything else—probably too thrifty. I have a hard time visualizing how this could go wrong even after I read the descriptions.

How much can a condom hold?

The "pull one onto your arm" thing was done by a health teacher my older sister had as a lesson to the girls in "no excuses".

So apparently Mrs Darwin hid Mr Darwin in their own house for three years. And they let their sons believe their father was dead while he was in fact living in that house. The mind boggles.

What with photography, telephones, the internets, and cheap transatlantic travel, it would be very difficult to disappear, I think.

126: Many `sex ed' teachers do stuff like this to cut through teenage bullshit, it seems. Roll one over a fist, a large squash, whatever.

I figure anyone who'd be put off by this blog isn't going to last long with Ogged anyways, so nothing lost if she finds it.

This is certainly the attitude I intend to take with respect to mine (should the issue ever come up).

55: It's unprovably true!

Gödel wept.

I had a friend in high school who used to stretch condoms over his head.

I have to confess I don't remember that guy, or the argument. Anyone remember if I was there?

By 115, I'm assuming that a blog that gives an accurate picture of you should be the one you hide?

That wasn't actually what I was going for, but that may be true, too, especially at the start of a relationship. I think it's still generally accepted that you don't divulge every gory detail of your life story on a first date. (Though, if there's one thing this blog has taught me, it's that people observe rules of dating that I have zero clue about.) If your blog is fully accurate and complete, then what a great way to ruin the process of mutual discovery with a new prospect when s/he can just click through.

I was thinking more that one's blog might be a reasonably accurate but limited representation of it's author -- I am guessing Ogged's persona here is a genuine reflection of the real Ogged, but probably caricatures certain qualities for their entertainment value.

128: All I can say is, we were both extremely motivated, and it still wasn't happening.

Many `sex ed' teachers do stuff like this to cut through teenage bullshit, it seems. Roll one over a fist, a large squash, whatever.

Inevitably setting up young women for years of disappointment, and young men for years of ridicule...

137: I don't see why. Don't they say `don't worry about the size, they stretch bigger than any mans penis' ?

but that may be true, too, especially at the start of a relationship. I think it's still generally accepted that you don't divulge every gory detail of your life story on a first date.

See, that seems like a waste of time to me. Unless your blog is an experiment in pushing social boundaries or something, I would think you're only kidding yourself to think that when the blog is found is what made it a deal breaker.

Was it today? On the post that was here in the late morning and isn't anymore? Then I did miss it.

Has Ogged linked to her myspace page yet?

Inevitably setting up young women for years of disappointment, and young men for years of ridicule...

I don't really get the obsession with cock size. I mean, sure, there are nice things about a large penis, but it's hardly a guarantor of sexual satisfaction. Slightly smaller proportions actually seem to allow for a bit better maneuverability, which can be rather useful, IMHO.

Worst pseudonym ever, Ben.

I wrote that comment with my cock, you know.

It's not that I don't get the concern about size at all, but the 'more is better' attitude displayed in the Magnum XL reviews seems off. I have, and friends I've talked to have, run into uncomfortably large, which has its drawbacks. Like everything else, there's a golden mean.

With no double-key strikes.

I'm out for the evening. Try to keep it in your pants, y'all.

139: Eh, who knows. I tend to think alot of stuff comes across differently depending on how much context you have.

Penis. Penis, penis, penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Penis. Peeeeeeeeeeenis.

Oh. Sorry.

142: that's what the joints are for.

My cock matched my thighs and I injured my poor Marthas with my love.

149: penes!

Ben is Murderface?

(Search for "murderface" on that page.)

On the veldt, the men liked to boast, from which conjecturally-derived factoid we must conclude that there were competitive reproductive advantages to the practice of boasting. From their primitive rituals of show-and-tell has developed a highly complex system of male bragging rights, the further refinement of which has been greatly enabled by the rise of the internets, which system of communication allows for a framework of comparison that is all but completely abstracted from an original, and all too material, referent.

Shorter 154: url 2 pics, ape d00dz.

Some condoms are oddly shaped. Despite being absolutely in the middle of the normal range, there was one brand I found difficult to wear as the rubber ring at the base was so tight it was damn near cutting the circulation off. I'd imagine someone of even moderately large proportions would have found that brand impossible to wear.

re: 145

Someone I know of is, allegedly, of such large proportions that he finds it difficult to find a partner who can accommodate. So much so that sex is apparently a depressing and difficult experience for him. I heard this story from two of his ex-girlfriends, who were discussing it, not from the man himself. So I can only assume it was not bragging or bullshit.

155: Apes are actually pretty small, comparatively speaking. Jared Diamond goes over this in The Third Chimpanzee.

url 2 pics, hungduck77.

Obligatory Achewood link.

(see also)

If left to my own devices, I usually buy the ultra-thin kind, as they tend to be rather forgiving of variation.

It's completely beyond me why people shy away from Tool Dip as an easy one-size-fits-all solution.

I'd have figured that if left to your own devices, you wouldn't *need* condoms.

162: Sigh. A true and painful pwn, that.

162: Obviously you're not up on the SOP for jelly-rubber toys.

162: I am, but was I gonna let that get in the way of a good joke? No I was not.

Daaaaaaamn yoooouuuuuu phtaaaaaalaaaaaatteeeesss!!

Sifu, are you me?

Der. "162" s/b "164", obvs.

167: I... I don't think so.

169: THINK AGAIN, SUCKA.

For additional clarity on 161 I'm looking for the director's cut of this clip, but nothing yet.

169: Yeah. Thinking about it, not enough Mylène Farmer.

||, I would like to share that I made pralines for my class tonight and 100% fucked them up. I am sorely ashamed and pissed off, since pecans are quickly catching up with truffles as absurdly expensive ingredients. Gah.

See, if only you weren't prejudiced against walnuts, you wouldn't have that problem.

Tweety has been cloned? That's one small step for a blogger; one giant leap for the blogosphere.

Or, well, something like that. Maybe.

Meanwhile, googling for "plasti dip penis" leads one into some deeply sad corners of the internet.

Pecans are much, much better than walnuts.

176: not to mention deeply inventive!

Pecans are better than walnuts for some applications; for others, things are reversed.

171 is awesome. The guy is so obviously not in earnest. "Why not dress up your glassware for the holidays with Plasti-Dip?" Why not indeed, sir.

178: and deeply, deeply disturbing.

179: You and your jesuitical arguments!

As to the rest of you, I met Cynthia Plastercaster once at a Touch-n-Go party in Chicago.

Remember when this thread was about mixes? I went ; through with my Ken Vandermark threat. Mix is here. Tracklist:

01 - Hoxha - Iris
02 - DKV Trio - Double Holiday
03 - Karayogis, Vandermark, McBride - Let Me Know
04 - Tripleplay - Rastro 5 (For Emir Kusturica)
05 - AALY Trio & Vandermark - Why I Don't Go Back
06 - Territory Band - Corrosion (For Barnett Newman; live)
07 - Free Fall - Into The Air
08 - Sonore - Elements of Refusal
09 - Steam - Chump Change
10 - 4 Corners - Short Stop (for Bobby Bradford)
11 - Bridge 61 - Shatter (for Sonny Sharrock)
12 - (((Powerhouse Sound))) - Old Dictionary (For Bernie Worrell)
13 - Zu & Spaceways, Inc - Theme De Yoyo
14 - Vandermark 5 - Knock Yourself Out

It's a little over 2 hours long. The Hoxha and Sonore tracks are just there to make it hard to take.

181: not to mention old friends, and new!

(pretend I'm Apo when considering clicking those, would you?)

Oy I should get back to work on my mix. No more deep-google-dicking!

I don't know how that semicolon got in there.

That (((Powerhouse Sound))) track is pretty fucking awesome, by the way.

You and your jesuitical arguments!

Always with the theological niceties on this godforsaken weblog.

Pecans are better than walnuts, though.

Oh come off it.

Pecans are so overrated it makes me sick.

189: You bastard. Stop oppressing me with your walnut-based sense of entitlement.

189: Quit misinterpreting me. It's oppressive.

Pecwned!

189: No pie for you, wolfsom. Ever.

Hélas.

Now that the pecan mafia's out in force I feel ever more justified in my position. Can't win on the merits, can you people?

Don't they say `don't worry about the size, they stretch bigger than any mans penis' ?

A roommate's sex ed class had a very motherly nurse put her fist into the condom and yank it up her arm, and then gently say, "Don't ever let him tell you it doesn't fit."

For additional clarity on 161 I'm looking for the director's cut of this clip, but nothing yet.

That risks being the unkindest cut of all...

"Don't ever let him tell you it doesn't fit."

So this demonstration is in response to a commonly-reported phenomenon. So who has ever encountered a guy saying this, or heard someone say they had? And what motive do we ascribe to the guy who says it?

This is all news to me.

Thinking about it, not enough Mylène Farmer.

I fondly imagined that I was the only one on this blog who listened to Mylène Farmer. I was actually planning to put a "Fuck You All" remix on my own Unfogged mix that I might just finish one of these days.

I went through with my Ken Vandermark threat.

I have some cool photos of Ken that I took this summer. Maybe I'll get around to putting them on Flickr soon.

Obama's theme song at the 36,000 person rally today? Stevie Wonder's "Signed, Sealed & Delivered, I'm Yours."

196: I trust this was a class of women, and a discussion about the ccondom - because any other combination could lead to, well...

200: Not to offend, but you seem a little hung up on this. No puns intended.

Hung like a kitten...

Is this the right thread to ask if anyone's involved in any good Oink successors, and then to beg for invites?

196: I'm intrigued by accounts of motherly (warm and wryly humorous and sex-positive) educators.

I never had a sex ed class, nor a sex ed teacher. But I did have Sr. Shannon. "But Sister, what if I forgot my [rosary] beads at home?" (oh, we loved the "what ifs"...we meant to work the logic of the catechism if we possibly could). "You've got your fingers, don't you, dear?"

(Sr Shannon was a lovely person, though. She truly worried about girls' self-esteem, even if her responses to various contemporary dilemmas were a tad bit out-moded and old-fashioned).

30: The tracklists are below. There is, I'm sure you'll notice, substantial borrowing from Unfogged mixes in there -- particularly from apo, ttaM and Sifu -- so some of the music you'll probably have already. I've marked those tracks with asterisks:

The Fire Sermon

01 Ground Zero - The Greenhouse Effect
02 Who's the Realest? - The Herbaliser *
03 Killer Inside Me - MC 900 Ft. Jesus
04 Hooker Leg - Crack: We Are Rock *
05 Head Like a Hole - Devo
06 Tits & Acid - Simian Mobile Disco *
07 Frau - I-Robots
08 Party Bag - Add N to (X)
09 Rocked by Rape - The Evolution Control Committee *
10 Snake Fist Fighter - Polvo *
11 Transmission - Joy Division
12 Blood Money - Sisters of Mercy
13 Under the Milky Way - The Church
14 Frankenstein - New York Dolls
15 Graveyard Shift - No Means No
16 The Innsmouth Look - The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets
17 Apocalypse Please - Muse
18 In the Hall of the Mountain King - Danny Elfman

Sweet Sounds, vol. 1

1 Grits Ain't Groceries - Little Milton *
2 As Long As I Have You - Garnet Mimms *
3 1-2-3 - Len Barry
4 Do I Love You (Indeed I Do) - Frank Wilson *
5 Lost Someone - James Brown *
6 Vehicle - Shirley Bassey *
7 Disrespectful - Chaka Khan & Mary J. Blige
8 Nah Mean Nahm Sayin' - The Herbaliser
9 Take Me Home - Brother Ali
10 Bad Girl - Greenhouse Effect
11 Show Me What You Got - Jay-Z
12 Soul Music - Hezekiah
13 Harder Than You Think - Public Enemy
14 Soul Bowl - Memphis Horns *
15 Goin' Down - Alan Toussaint *
16 Rien Ne Va Plus - Funk Factory *
17 Funkier Than a Mosquito's Tweeter - Nina Simone
18 Elephant Man - Bo Diddley
19 Young Man's Blues - The Who
20 Hot & Nasty - Black Oak Arkansas *
21 Grinnin' In Your Face - Son House

Sweet Sounds, vol. 2

1 Whatever, However - Tracie Thoms & Zoe Bell
2 Red Corvette - Ellie Gee
3 Chick Habit - April March
4 Friendship Station - Le Tigre
5 Lovable - Sam Cooke
6 The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game - Barbara McNair
7 Stronger Than Dirt - Soul, Inc.
8 Summer Wine - Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood
9 Requiem for Love - Bobby Gentry & Jody Reynolds
10 Back to Black - Amy Winehouse
11 You Know I Do - Jeff Barry
12 Run Cold - Holly Golightly *
13 Black is Beautiful - Karmello Brooks
14 Give Me Some Skin - James Brown
15 Lay Me Like You Hate Me - Wilson Pickett
16 She's a Wiggler - Fenton Robinson *
17 Heavy Heavy Heavy - Geraldo Pine *
18 Red Clay - Soil & Pimp Sessions *
19 The Mask - Bernie Worrell *
20 I Regret the Flower Power - Black Devil Disco Club

I had an awesome sex ed teacher (summer school, since I went to Catholic school during the school year) who got up on her desk to show us the position women had to take for an ob/gyn exam. She also made a point of saying, "so guys, you might want to think about what women have to go through in order to be sexually active."

I never had a sex ed class, nor a sex ed teacher.

Two memories of sex ed stick out - one funny, the other sad.

Gr. 8, the girl behind me was called upon to read aloud a passage about conception, which read something like: "and in a moment of great love [this was a Catholic school] the man places his penis in the vagina, and deposits his seed to conceive a living organism". Except instead of "organism", the girl said "orgasm"...

Gr. 9 (this was 1984): our phys ed teacher skimmed over the AIDS part of the STDs, because it was then called GIDS (which I'll leave to your imagination), and he didn't think there were any queers in our class...

Addendum to 205: Track 19 on the second mix should also be asterisked.

Peak sex ed memories.

And another.

As long as we're talking about music, I have an ignoramous question. Someone just recommended to me "The Duke Ellington song 'Freedom.'" I did a quick browse and there seems to be a lot under that general heading, maybe even an entire concert (?).

I have a very mainstream (okay, hazy) notion of his music. Is this an actual song title? Was the person confused about the musician and/or the name of the song? Is there one canonical version that I will recognize as soon as I hear it?

208: weirdly, I have several other of those tracks, too.

205: Thanks!

211: Dunno, but there's a great Mingus Freedom Song.

Do I smell Probe in that mix, DS?

Oh, man. Tool Dip is awesome. Never again be afraid to grip your tool tightly.

I just deleted after judging pointless a whole long comment on the different meanings of "large" among different brands of condoms. Suffice to say, different people have different needs and having choices available is a good thing. In no way should bragging be inferred from this comment.

Also, a million blessings be on Sifu for his reposting of mixes.

Yes, but what of those "Rough Rider" condoms for people who fuck too hard for regular condoms? Those sort of scare me, even if it's just a marketing technique.

I thought Rough Riders were just ribbed?

I thought they were supposed to be extra-thick and durable, like for people who accidentally fuck their way through a whole box before ever achieving orgasm. Gah!

I'd feel creepy just buying something like that.

219: So, cokeheads? I'm figuring drunks largely can't get or keep it up long enough to wear a condom clean through.

This thread, and the browsing at online stores that it inspired, is opening my mind. Here I get condoms for free, and they come in two kinds, discreetly referred to by the nice nurses as "the red ones or the gray ones." (That's lubricated or ultra-thin.)

Why do those mixes always get posted when I'm at jbex, with no way to download them, play them once downloaded or even transfer them to ipod.

there's a password protected blog where we read all the taken-down posts and plot ways to fuck with you, Martin. that's why.

And they said those pills were to "curb my excessive paranoia". HA! Who's paranoid now?

i could not open the BS player files
wondering what is wrong with the files

I have uploaded a Christmas mix, "Xmassery".

Here's the track list:
1. The Christmas Song - The Raveonettes
2. Father Christmas - The Kinks
3. Just Like Christmas - Low
4. Space Christmas - Shonen Knife
5. Frosty the Snowman - Man or Astroman
6. Christmas Wrapping - The Waitresses
7. The Christmas Bookie - The Davis Sisters
8. In the Winter - The Fastbacks
9. Santa Claus Is Coming to Town - The Revillos
10. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas - Hem
11. Merry Christmas Baby - James Brown
12. Christmas in Hollis - Run DMC
13. A Christmas Carol - Tom Lehrer
14. Fairytale of New York - The Pogues
15. Jingle Rock Bell - Pink Stainless Tail
16. Merry Christmas - Silkworm
17. The Wren in the Furze - The Chieftains
18. Listen, the Snow is Falling - Galaxie 500

Christmas Boogie, not Bookie! (That would make an amusing song, though, I imagine.)

What's the over on Santa skipping Romney this year?

214: Yeah, the third one is pretty much all Probe all the time.

Arrrggghh, I had resigned myself to not having time to do another mix before unfoggedcon, but seeing people starting to post mixes again makes me think I have to find time.

"Don't ever let him tell you it doesn't fit."

B has said this before, and it's simply not true, and it betrays a ridiculous inability to empathize.

Does wearing too-small latex gloves impair your comfort and even, thanks to impaired circulation, your ability to perform basic tasks? Well then, a too-small condom is much worse. Why wouldn't it be? Try imagining.

NickS, I got your message about posting the mix you sent me, but I won't be able to get to burn and upload it until tonight

What's the over on Santa skipping Romney this year?

Are Mormons Christian enough for Santa?

233: No problem, I appreciate your willingness, and it's not urgent.

Are Mormons Christian enough for Santa?

You misspelled Satan.

I post mixes wherever I want!

The real question is whether Satan is too Christian for Romney.

Hm!

232: That was all in response to a claim that it actually didn't fit (bullshit) rather than was uncomfortable (quite possible, and variable with anatomy) or didn't stay on (a different sometimes related problem). Although it sounds like that claim was based inexperience, not a bizzaro-world.

where do you people find space to upload these things to?

(without paying for space...since I don't have a homepage, don't own any bandwidth except at blogspot and facebook)

239: sendspace is teh free.

That was all in response to a claim that it actually didn't fit (bullshit) rather than was uncomfortable (quite possible, and variable with anatomy) or didn't stay on (a different sometimes related problem).

well, what does "fit" mean?

A 240-pound man could squeeze into a size-S t-shirt. Does that mean it fits?

That sex-ed woman's point was "if a guy tells you he can't have sex with condoms of a certain size, he's lying." But that is totally false.

232: My empathy's fine, weenie. My empathy for your weenie is fine.

In the context the advice was given, with a bunch of 13-year-old girls who aren't sure about sex, as advice intended not to let them be pressured easily into sex without a condom ("No, I don't have one, baby, they don't fit me" as opposed to "Then let us as mature young adults proceed to procure one that fits from the variety of options at our local pharmacy"), I think it's just fine.

Otherwise, my general opinion is that condoms suck and one of the better parts about being married, monogamous, and not overly paranoid about accidentally making a baby (I'm on the ring, but we're not doubling up) is that no condoms are necessary!

241: the claim was `we physically couldn't get it on', not `it was uncomfortable'. The small tshirt analogy is a bad one. Plenty of people just can't fit into a size small shirt without ripping it. A standard sized condom, on the other hand will fit over your head.

I totally understand the too tight for comfort issue, though I think it has more variables than just the dimensions (i.e. sensitivity of shaft). There are also potential issues with positioning at the base. This are both rare.

As far as the sex-ed woman goes, she's going to see thousands of teenage boys with stupid ideas about sex, condoms, masculity, and the size of their own cocks for every one she sees who will genuinely have difficulty with standard condoms. So it's probably a good policy.

"No, I don't have one, baby, they don't fit me"

Again my question: This is commonly heard?

244: How much time have you spent with 16 year old boys lately?

244: Honestly, you have just no idea about the kind of shit (very) young women hear from men. Or rather, you only know what you've said rather than you and a passel of boys. (I'm teasing you, but you get the idea.)

If you boys would buy your own damn condoms, this wouldn't be a problem.

So the answer is yes, plenty?

And what is the relevance of "lately?" Is this supposed to be new in the last few decades?

247 is funny, of course.

Once, when I was doing student congress debate in high school (yeah, yeah), a speaker from a different school, speaking on I can't remember what issue, opined in the two following wise, in the course of one and the same speech:

A. Asking a dude to wear a condom during sex is really just too much, because everyone knows that condoms ruin the feeling.
B. In his opinion, if you can get a crying baby to quiet down, by what means soever, you're doing a bang-up job as a parent.

He had a kind of loutish aspect, I can't deny. I can't remember what points these claims were supposed to support.

I hand-craft my own condoms using materials purchased at the local DIY shop. I find that simply asking the right sort of person if they'd like to help me test out my new project works pretty well.

Young people believe a lot of stupid things about sex, the one that breaks my heart and takes the cake for me is the patient of a doctor friend (as I think I've mentioned here) who insisted she couldn't be pregnant, because when she had sex, the semen all ran out. So the visual of a condom being stretched over someone's arm I'm sure was helpful for some girls who were, we can presume, starting with next to no knowledge about how anything actually works.

"No, I don't have one, baby, they don't fit me"

i can see the necessity to make sure girls don't fall for this crap.

but really, so what if it can fit over your fist? that means it's suitable for every penis? that's a terrible leap of logic.

not to brag, but this exact thing has happened to me, but in reverse. i did not carry condoms because i wasn't expecting anything to happen, and was at her place. i hadn't had sex, only oral sex. somehow it appeared that we were logically progressing toward intercourse. she had some condoms, and i tried to put one on and it was too tight. she didn't think that was plausible, but she said "i guess we could do it without one...i'm taking the pill regularly...i'm sure you don't have any diseases..." but i couldn't do that either, having phimosis.

she thought i was chickening out with a lame excuse.

anyway, the point is that everyone should feel sorry for men with big cocks.

What I'm getting is that "they don't fit me" is typical of the kind of thing hypothetical teenage boys think/say, but nobody so far has actually heard it.

My point is that some nonsense is evergreen, but I'd never heard this one and was curious about its incidence.

It's amazing how many men there are who claim that regular condoms don't fit them.

not overly paranoid about accidentally making a baby

This is a very textured place to be in. I'm in it right now, employing the same BabyAway system as 242. It mixes the needle fear of "I want to be me! A baby would really fuck that up" with the mellowing realization that "I wanna stick around with this person, I do want to reproduce, and people do continue to exist with children"; in the distance, the gathering clouds spell "It would suck to be old and just getting started on this, wouldn't it?"

My point is that some nonsense is evergreen, but I'd never heard this one and was curious about its incidence.

Well, how many teenage boys have tried to seduce you?

No one in this thread has said they heard that exact thing, yet. But it sounds plausible.

Whatever. Adopt a twenty-year-old with his or her own apartment.

For the sake of young men and young women alike, perhaps rather than showing how the condom fits over a fist, the teacher could just say, "And don't let him tell you it doesn't fit -- look at the wide variety of sizes and textures available from your local drug store or online retailer."

257--
"people do continue to exist with children"

one of the biggest myths about sex.

take it from me--childbirth ends the lives of two adults.
adults--gone. here come the parents.

And the condom fitting over a fist does make sense for 'don't let him tell you it doesn't fit without trying it -- he's going to be able to get it on'. Someone with known fit issues should be carrying a brand they can tolerate, and if they're not, being sure they can't tolerate yours is likely bullshit.

Someone with known fit issues should be carrying a brand they can tolerate, and if they're not, being sure they can't tolerate yours is likely bullshit.

unless it's a boy who hasn't tried to get one on before.

i carried one of my own after that.

257: Yeah, we're at the point where actually trying to make a baby would probably be pretty dumb, but we want kids, and are increasingly coming to the conclusion our lives will turn ass over teakettle no matter when we have a baby.

RFTS, I am anticipating the download of 227 like a child going to bed who thinks that in the morning he is going to get a lot of stuff, and maybe it is going to snow too.

263: Your partner does sound like she was unreasonable in deciding you were chickening out, certainly.

264: our lives will turn ass over teakettle no matter when we have a baby.

Yep. Not a reason not to do it, but there's not going to be a time when it's sensible and reasonable and under control. If you're planning on kids, now is likely to be as good a time as any other.

I'm telling you. Adopt someone with his/her own place.

266--
"If you're planning on kids, now is likely to be as good a time as any other."

well, the advice i give really depends a lot on the person's age.

if you are younger than 35 or so, i'd say wait a while before you have kids.

if you're older than 30, i'd say you're too old.

I get all the curricular reasoning about this hypothetical, I'm just looking for anecdotal confirmation of this claim.

Last year in DC, Labs tried that line on me.

269--
you want proof? you want evidence?
fine.
andy sullivan said it to me just the other night.

270: Are you sure it wasn't the truth?

269: I don't have strong reason to believe or disbelieve that this ("It won't fit") is something that gets said, but I doubt you're going to get firsthand confirmation on this site for educational/class reasons -- the women on this site would generally (I'm guessing) be less likely to hear this sort of claim from a partner, even as teenagers, than teenagers generally would.

I'm probably stereotyping here, possibly offensively, but think about it.

It's amazing how many men there are who claim that regular condoms don't fit them.

Yes. I guess the only upside of this is in economy of scale: There aren't enough men whose penises are deviant enough in diameter to require a large-fit condom for comfort to make up a big enough market to support production. But with loads of deluded folks, they can sell enough. Mostly it's harmless and gives their ex-girlfriends something to laugh about amongst themselves (something I've witnessed on several occasions).

Length is a seperate but somewhat related issue, but honestly if you are long enough that you can't roll one down far enough, you're long enough that some women will have difficulty with that (ah, the joys of mismatched anatomy) so you're going to need to be careful of that, too. I guess certain shapes are more likely to roll up, too.

274--

"I guess certain shapes are more likely to roll up, too."

e.g., frustra.

aptly named.

272: I am actually positive it was. But he should have brought his own.

275--
oops. i see the oed prefers 'frusta'.

less ha-ha.

Someone with known fit issues should be carrying a brand they can tolerate

Like geo-washington, the problem in my case was that they weren't known fit issues.

"It would suck to be old and just getting started on this, wouldn't it?"

There are drawbacks (stamina) and advantages (patience). And LB is 100% correct that there will *always always always* be multiple reasons why any given time isn't the right time to have a baby, because there just ain't nothing convenient about it.

278: Well, see my 266. At that point, reasonable people go shopping for condoms that fit, or postpone sex, without getting bent out of shape about it. The implicit claim being refuted by the sex educators is that condoms generally won't fit, which is nonsense.

278: Right, but both you and geowashington would have been wrong if you asserted you knew that they didn't fit you (prior to it not fitting) and therefore were going to proceed without one.

I wish we lived in a society where, as bitchphd says, pregnancy is not a choice, but something that happens from time to time in life and should fit into a normal life. But for people for whom pregnancy is a choice...we can't pretend it isn't.

280: And we did exactly what you suggest reasonable people should do. Doesn't mean it wasn't terribly frustrating at the time. (Did I mention I was trying to lose my virginity?)

I agree with you about what sex educators are doing. I originally came in because oudemia was expressing skepticism about there being any real difference between brands/modalities.

And what Cala said in 281. Putting on the condom and then saying "Ow, this isn't going to work" is perfectly reasonable. But claiming beforehand that you know it won't fit would be obnoxious (if, pace IDP, such a claim has ever occured) unless accompanied by "But this brand works."

254 to everything.

Another thing surprised me about spiro t and george:

I would have guessed that most people tried one of the damn things on before ever doing it in front of a girl --- if for no other reason than to avoid the sort of incompetent fumbling that might suggest you haven't a clue what you're doing.

Allowing for a genuine discomfort issue (not being able to actually get it over your cock is not really the condoms fault) you would pretty much figure that out at the same time.

I originally came in because oudemia was expressing skepticism about there being any real difference between brands/modalities.

There is a BIG difference between possible and actual condoms, let me assure you.

286 `a girl' s/b `another person'

283: It does, indeed, sound like a drag.

(Question: I have no idea if virgin boys do this, or really if it would be a sensible thing to do. But do boys experiment with putting on condoms before trying it out under real-having-sex-with-someone-else conditions?)

287: a possible-condom can cover all 30 goddam dicks at the same time --- and then some.

289 pwned by 286, which raises the same question.

Spiro T. Agnew's famed anagram comes to mind.

OT, in the way that references to the original thread can only be: my unfogged folder on my iTunes is approaching 2 GB.

283: Well, brands really. And the question was in good faith. It wouldn't have surprised me if the condoms advertised as XXL EXTREME SECRETARIAT or whatever weren't in fact different from regular old Trojans. But apparently they are.

(Question: I have no idea if virgin boys do this, or really if it would be a sensible thing to do. But do boys experiment with putting on condoms before trying it out under real-having-sex-with-someone-else conditions?)

actually, i did. i thought it was normal for it to be uncomfortable.

but then in the moment...i realized it was just TOO uncomfortable to allow me to enjoy anything.

I'm quite sure I never put one on before immediate use; how naively trusting of me! What if it hadn't fit?!

There was no explicit sex education in my public high school in the sixties. Health class talked about what were then called venereal diseases, with pictures of chancres and descriptions of symptoms, but were hazy on transmission details. I'd say it was implicitly abstinence-only.

And perhaps in a perfect world they'd all fit the boys for condoms and equip the girls with little kits full of options just in case. But maybe not; if a teenager gets the message 'no sex without a condom', that justifies a minor overgeneralization. Statistically, you're not all that likely to contract an STD from one encounter, especially once you factor in things like your social circle, how well you know the person and their history. But that doesn't mean we should tell teens to calculate the odds before deciding whether to use a condom.

286, 289: I was never particulary concerned about not appearing like I didn't know what I was doing, because, well, I *didn't* know what I was doing, and it never would have occurred to me to pretend otherwise.

Come to think of it, I did try things out a few years before the incident in question, but apparently I grew a bit in the intervening years.

293: they are, but not actually a lot. There just isn't that much variability in human male physiology.

I suspect variability in shaft sensitivity is responsible for most of the problems, not actuall size.

Also, it's easy to realize how much of this is largely bullshit when you consider how many `extra small' condoms you see on sale.

298--

oh come now. your better gentlemen's emporia always stock petite sizes.
(petit?)

Spiro T. Agnew's famed anagram comes to mind.

"Grow a spine"?

294 etc. see 298.2

Which doesn't actually change anything for you, of course. But `relaxed fit' probably doesn't market as well as `XL'.

298: Yeah, the comment thread at one of the xxl condom sites that ogged pointed out yesterday was priceless. "This is almost a great condom for me and my guy if it were just an inch wider and a couple inches longer."

300
and lose a 't'?

No, silly, "grow a ptenis."

Also, it's easy to realize how much of this is largely bullshit when you consider how many `extra small' condoms you see on sale.

heh, yes.

the regular ones were really too tight. confinement inducing panic.

but then i tried the magnum ones, and it was a little baggy. but definitely a better fit.

302: That comment was in reference to this item, actually

Could be "grow a spinet", actually.

Actually!

302--
also, my partner would really like it if it were scented to smell like fresh clover and oats. he finds that a real turn on!

upon reading the whole thread it does seem like oudemia was completely wrong.

289: I did not and found out that yes regular can happen but I prefer, shall we say, a baggier leg.

I'm sure my sex ed teacher could have wrapped one around a Volkswagen but it wouldn't have been safe to use after. There's no good reason to add over-stressing the walls or opening to the various ways in which one can be broken and cause much calamity.

sorry, that came out totally wrong. suppressing my real personality is making me sound weird.

sorry oudemia.

311: I was? *sniff* I thought I was just asking a question. But that's ok. I'm wrong a lot.

enough of this persona.

i hope we've all learned a lot today. take care of yourselves, and each other.

There aren't enough men whose penises are deviant enough in diameter to require a large-fit condom for comfort to make up a big enough market to support production.

Ridiculous; if one in 40 American males is "deviant enough in diameter", your market is a couple million people.

I just remembered that when this post went up I e-mailed the link to a couple of friends who are not unfogged readers, but are music friends.

Now I sort of hope they don't read the entire comments thread.

And the thing is that post 88 started it all, and was in response to something in some other thread entirely.

All the subsequent comments should just be moved to that thread. Or the list of mixes should be reposted with comments closed.

Gain inches++ the easy way: download my mix!

I'm totally calling my next mix "Magnum XXL" and making it super, super gay.

i still can't listen to .ogg files
what should i do?

read: see here.

Now that NickS is embarrassed by the thread, I'm posting his 80s Pop mix he sent and asked me to post here.

80s Pop

Track listing here.

320
thank you

321: Thanks, Apo.

Reflecting on it, this thread is just a microcosm of unfogged -- you can't separate the cock jokes from the information.

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE COCKS!

Well, not all at once anyway.

I liked some these, and thought I'd post one too. Separate mp3s, not a concatenation. Slow to fast to slow, inhomogeneous style, not the order below.
Hope y'all like it.

80Mb here

1. Nouvelle Vague - Ever Fallen In Love (3:19)
2. Larry Tee - New Order - Confusion (Larry (5:04)
3. Arielle Dombasle - Quien Sera (Sway) (2:44)
4. Nina Simone - Don`t Let Me Be Misunderstood (2:42)
5. Amr Diab - Hala Hala (4:40)
6. Cuarteto Patria - Si Yo Fuera Como Tu 2 (2:28)
7. The Gospel Harmonettes of Demopolis, Alabama - Jesus Is On the Main Line (4:12)
8. Cheb Mami - Azwaw 2 (5:00)
9. Porter Wagoner - A Satisfied Mind (2:45)
10. Various - Jazz, Blues, Funk - Blind Willie Mctell - Broke D (3:13)
11. Yo Majesty - Club Action (Chris Bagraiders Sailing to Baltimore Edit) (4:05) (Lyrics unsuitable for kids)
12. mt068 earthmonkey varuna swing 1 (8:19)
13. David Bowie - Oh You Pretty Things (The Scar Remix) (3:42)
14. Weaver & Beasley - Soft Steel Piston (3:04)
15. X Plastaz - Msimu kwa msimu (4:19)

i like Nina Simone

8. Cheb Mami - Azwaw 2 (5:00)

Not in the .zip file.

Hey apo, why don't you update this post with the new mixes?

If you update the post it might be worth grouping the links by person (so that all of Sifu or Wrongshore's mixes would be together).

Also if you could tag the mixes by the genres they include, that'd be great.

I'd also like them alphabetized by first name of the fifth artist appearing in each mix, please.

And if you could just list the full length for each mix, too. I'd find that very helpful.

Wait, LB, do you get to play the "unreasonable demand" game given that you could edit the post yourself? I want you to do these things, LB. You.

Big talk, from someone who has a blog of his own.

I never thought that "My Blog is Down!" would be the equivalent of a get-out-of-jail free card, but it's sure turned out that way.

Jingle, rock, jingle, rock, bell, bell, bell...

Heh. Glad to see you gave it a try.

It's a good mix! But I just know my urge to sing that song is going to inspire attempts on my life.

It is a definite hazard.

Cheb Mami missing

Whoops, sorry. email for that one (it's pretty much straight Rai), or holler for either a Maghreb+Arab+Persian set or a blues set.

I see a few people have been downloading from the 4shared archive; I've added a new mix there for some meatspace folk, and y'all should know about it too:

If I Had a Hi-Fi (tracklist)

01 The Milkman - He-Man
02 Eric B & Rakim - Microphone Fiend
03 BDP - The Bridge is Over
04 The GZA - Knock, Knock
05 Braille - The IV
06 Aesop Rock - Citronella
07 edIT (feat. The Grouch) - Artsy
08 De Le Soul (feat. Redman) - Oooh [Original Version]
09 Jay-Z - 44 Fours
10 Roots Manuva - Witness (One Hope)
11 OutKast - Mamacita
12 Jay Electronica - We Love You Family
13 Lupe Fiasco - Dumb It Down
14 One Be Lo - War
15 Wu Tang Clan (feat. George Clinton) - Wolves
16 Ghostface Killah (feat. Raekwon & Method Man) - Yolanda's House
17 Nas - Surviving the Times
18 Kwest Tha Madd Ladd - Why Me
19 Blue & Exile - Dancing in the Rain

(Oh, link.)

That link just goes to the 4shared homepage, it seems.

Did rfts include Jingle Rock Bell? I see that she did. Awesome.

Notice how at one point PST throws in a "ringle jock bell", just to mess with you.

I don't get Ghostface Killah. I listen to the song and don't notice anything he says. Then it's over. His voice just isn't designed for my brain, I guess.

Whoops. Try this one...

345: Yeah, I used to feel the same way. He's grown on me since.

A kilo is a thousand grams, it's easy to remember.

Ghostface Killah is pretty awesome. He's smooth like that, Ned.

I prefer rappers whose words I notice. Aesop Rock, for example. Or Ludacris. Or Fabolous. Basically, you've either got it or you don't.

I keep hearing about how some Ghostface song tells a great story of underworld chicanery, and I listen to it and by one minute in I've forgotten what the song is supposed to be about, it just sounds like random words like all his other songs.

The Wu-Tang rappers are all pretty deep in the vernacular register, and GFK especially so. If you can't follow the idioms, I can see it being hard to understand what he's saying.

I prefer rappers whose words I notice. Aesop Rock, for example.

I love me some Aesop Rock, but God only knows what he's rapping about.

The Wu-Tang rappers have a new album coming out today.

I just don't notice the words. It's just something about GFK's voice, it gets lost in the type of beats he usually gets -- it's like everything is said at the same pace and whatever's supposed to be emphasized is not emphasized any more than anything else.

GFK's verse on Plastic Little's "Crambodia", though, I can understand that.

It's not true of Raekwon, I can hear the lyrics when he raps. But he's not supposed to be a genius.

Tracks 15 and 16 above are off the respective new albums.

Excellent, I'll check out the mix when I'm not at work.

Late to the thread...

I'm mad enough to have a an old mix that is just variations of one song: You're A Mean One Mr. Grinch.

I am pretty sure on who plays on what track. There are a few tracks where I'm not so sure and those have a question mark. The artists are there, but I'm not sure on which track.