Re: Today I visited Metafilter

1

In that case you are not paying for the alleged deliciousness of the eggs so much as you are paying for the alleged happiness of the chickens.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:45 PM
horizontal rule
2

Those chickens are fed on only the finest scrabs and grubs.


Posted by: mano negra | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:46 PM
horizontal rule
3

1: As for me I would pay any amount to make my chicken happy.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:48 PM
horizontal rule
4

The chickens were actually kept in pens. But get this! They moved the pens around.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:49 PM
horizontal rule
5

Oh, I get it, the free-range chicken eggs cost more.


Posted by: mano negra | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:50 PM
horizontal rule
6

1: Maybe. There's a no-kill place for eggs near where I am right now in OH. Freak heirloom chickens, in fact, who have blue and green and brown eggs. They're $3/doz. The groovy heirloom egg guy at the Union Sq. Market, whose stuff is maybe free range, but not no-kill, charges $9/doz. I think it is a Bay Area/NYC thing.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:50 PM
horizontal rule
7

That Midwest Teen Sex Show is totally hilarious.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:50 PM
horizontal rule
8

Does the Complete! Fucking! Pogo! include previously censored pornographic strips?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:51 PM
horizontal rule
9

6: I wasn't aware you had to kill the chickens to get the eggs.

This outfit was prepared to sell customers chickens for soup—$10 apiece—suggesting that death does enter the picture at some point.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:54 PM
horizontal rule
10

Does the Complete! Fucking! Pogo! include previously censored pornographic strips?

Miss Mam'selle Hepzibah does a striptease.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:55 PM
horizontal rule
11

9: I think the killing usually happens when they stop laying and thus lose a lot of their value--I'm pretty sure this also happens with milk cows.


Posted by: the Other Paul | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:56 PM
horizontal rule
12

Isn't Graphamaximo also publishing the complete Peanuts, Dick Tracy and Flash Gordon, or is that somebody else?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:57 PM
horizontal rule
13

9: Well, assuming you are not being disingenuous, there are lots of vegetarians who won't eat eggs not just because of battery cages, etc., but because even those free-range chickens end up being killed for meat.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 12:58 PM
horizontal rule
14

And what do the no-kill places do with the chickens when they stop laying? Give them a gold watch and send them to Florida? A freeing-up of ranges is nothing but better payment for the slave, and does not conquer either for the chicken or the cock their moral status and dignity.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:02 PM
horizontal rule
15

14: This place keeps their chickens to run around the fields and shit. Their worth doesn't end when they stop laying. Now when they stop running around, no clue. Mr oudemia would know, but he is teaching right now. I don't eat eggs because they used to give me hives when I was a kid. No hives anymore, but they still squick me at a sort of ur level.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:04 PM
horizontal rule
16

A freeing-up of ranges is nothing but better payment for the slave....

Easy on the clutch there, Maverick, you're grinding metal.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:05 PM
horizontal rule
17

Their worth doesn't end when they stop laying

See, they've just found a new way to exploit them, and continue to look on them in terms of extrinsic worth. Those must be some alienated chickens.

Not that I don't actually think that the conditions in which the animals we (for some values of "we") use for food shouldn't be vastly improved over what they are currently, you know, just to be clear.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:08 PM
horizontal rule
18

16: you may want to look for the bolded phrase here.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:09 PM
horizontal rule
19

Eh, they run around, are fed, kept warm, go in and out as they please. They aren't making Nikes. I was just answering your question on your terms.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:11 PM
horizontal rule
20

I know. I was just being a dick.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:12 PM
horizontal rule
21

20: I think you should read this.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:15 PM
horizontal rule
22

Labor Day! It's Labor Day! Pools are open! Do all your shopping at Wal-Mart!


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:23 PM
horizontal rule
23

OMG! The MTSS episode #8 has an homage to the best scene from The ABC of Sex Education for Trainables!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:31 PM
horizontal rule
24


I remember listening to that best/worst song ever on an episode of This American Life, called "Numbers." They also produced the favorite/least favorite paintings by poll. Agreed, the worst song ever is genius, particularly the opera singer rapping cowboy music.


Posted by: Belle Lettre | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 1:56 PM
horizontal rule
25

The best song wasn't very good, though. I'm very easily seduced by affable cheese, and that was terrible. I don't think that's strongest way about the joke. Any "sneer at the squares" routine that doesn't make a listener like me feel implicated is pretty lame.

I recall reading a step-by-step instruction on how to record a chart-topping song. I think it was by the Manic Street Preachers, but memory and google fail me. It was very serious and cynical, and suggested that there was a small bit of hard work and expense, but that the formula could be mastered with very little creativity.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 2:31 PM
horizontal rule
26

Ah-ha! The KLF. I knew it was British; adding "top of the pops" got me there.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 2:34 PM
horizontal rule
27

the Most Unwanted Song is amazingly great

Fewer than 200 individuals of the world's total population will enjoy this

Paging w-lfs-n!

Actually, though, I love the most unwanted song too. But I actually do like country, rap, and opera in their pure form. Even better all together!


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 3:22 PM
horizontal rule
28

And I love Christmas music too! It's like the Most Unwanted song was made just for me!


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 3:25 PM
horizontal rule
29

affable cheese

In case I ever find myself in need of a new handle, I'm calling dibs on this now.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 3:33 PM
horizontal rule
30

TOO LATE!


Posted by: affable cheese | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 3:34 PM
horizontal rule
31

Then you may easily seduce me.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 3:34 PM
horizontal rule
32

And you know it works, too, because the KLF followed their own guide.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 3:40 PM
horizontal rule
33

$10 a chicken? Outrageous! Overall that's probably still cheaper than Ogged's breasts.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 4:15 PM
horizontal rule
34

I don't think $10 for a decent-sized chicken is outrageous, to be honest. And that's way cheaper than ogged's fowl tits.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 4:16 PM
horizontal rule
35

<Lovitz> Outrageously cheap for a hen supreme. </Lovitz>


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 4:39 PM
horizontal rule
36

cheaper than Ogged's breasts

Most things are.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 4:46 PM
horizontal rule
37

i just realized Yoko Ono looks a bit like my mother
it's in eyes i think
for you opera lovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qunMgCD-ww


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 5:31 PM
horizontal rule
38

I want a track that is just the holiday parts of the Unwanted Song spliced together.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 5:31 PM
horizontal rule
39

Here you go, foxytail.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 6:36 PM
horizontal rule
40

My hero!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 6:37 PM
horizontal rule
41

Oh Ben. You have given me a Christmas anti-miracle.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 6:37 PM
horizontal rule
42

Poor Snark, I played the holiday version twice in a row and now am sitting here bellowing "VETERAN'S DAY!" and the like at irregular intervals.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 6:55 PM
horizontal rule
43

Whoa, Midwest Teen Sex Show is great. Speaking of which, would it be creepy for me to date a (totally legal!) high-school senior?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:04 PM
horizontal rule
44

Yes.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:07 PM
horizontal rule
45

Okay then.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:08 PM
horizontal rule
46

(1/2)+7 answers all, teo.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:08 PM
horizontal rule
47

She's probably not 18 and a half yet, though I'm not sure. The other 18-year-old (remember her?) definitely wasn't, and I don't recall anyone complaining.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:09 PM
horizontal rule
48

AT WAL-MART!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:10 PM
horizontal rule
49

Teo: do you live below the Mason-Dixon Line?

If yes, then creepy because she's too old

If no, then creepy because. Just because.


Posted by: Dr Paisley | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:11 PM
horizontal rule
50

Teo: do you live below the Mason-Dixon Line?

Yes, but it doesn't have much meaning out here.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:13 PM
horizontal rule
51

If you're going to be conscientious and not round up or down, you may also have permission to measure your own age in days rather than merely years if it helps.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:13 PM
horizontal rule
52

51: In that case I'm probably okay.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:16 PM
horizontal rule
53

Er, measure both ages in days, that is.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:18 PM
horizontal rule
54

Wait, maybe I'm not okay even then. I'm too drunk to do the calculations right now.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:18 PM
horizontal rule
55

Call her up and ask.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:21 PM
horizontal rule
56

That doesn't seem like a good idea.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:25 PM
horizontal rule
57

18ish has the logistical problem that you can't go out to a drinking establishment. Even if you're not a huge fan of drinking, that rules out an awful lot of options.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:27 PM
horizontal rule
58

I agree with Nathan. Just buy a case of beer and drink with her at home.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:28 PM
horizontal rule
59

18ish has the logistical problem that you can't go out to a drinking establishment. Even if you're not a huge fan of drinking, that rules out an awful lot of options.

Yes, this is an issue, but Ned has a quite useful solution.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 8:31 PM
horizontal rule
60

Okay, how about an 18-year-old college freshman?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 10:36 PM
horizontal rule
61

Much better.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 10:38 PM
horizontal rule
62

Good.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 10:38 PM
horizontal rule
63

would it be creepy

Creepily awesome.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 10:41 PM
horizontal rule
64

*Somewhat* better, is what Ben means.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 10:51 PM
horizontal rule
65

Neither would be creepy, teo. These people have too much invested in your non-dating.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 10:55 PM
horizontal rule
66

This post title would have been better if it had been, "Last night I visited Metafilter again."


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 11:11 PM
horizontal rule
67

Teo: you can go to prom!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 11:14 PM
horizontal rule
68

Better, but less accurate.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 11:16 PM
horizontal rule
69

Teo: you can go to prom!

Now that would be creepily awesome.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-17-07 11:30 PM
horizontal rule
70

re: the KLFs book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual

I used to have an original copy of that [bought in 88 or 89]. I lent it to someone and never got it back.

The real joy in the book is their hyperbolic [and very very funny] deconstruction of various Stock, Aitken and Waterman hits by Kylie and Rick Astley.

Their method, btw, essentially involves finding someone who isn't a great singer to front your band, going to the club which plays the hottest imported black American music, finding out the most popular 12" played there and ripping off the beat. Combine with a big dumb chorus. Get some studio programmer to do the work. Print money.

There was a number 1 hit by a band called Edelweiss, in the UK, in the late 80s. They claimed to have followed the KLF method.

This year's Mercury Prize winning group, The Klaxons, apparently also claim to have been influenced by it.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 12-18-07 12:32 AM
horizontal rule
71

Teo: you can go to prom!

I know someone who took a twenty-four year old fireman to prom. The fireman complained about not getting any at the end of the night, too.


Posted by: destroyer | Link to this comment | 12-18-07 12:47 AM
horizontal rule
72

The fireman complained about not getting any at the end of the night, too.

Well, sure. If you have to suffer through another prom it's quite understandable that you'd want something out of it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-18-07 11:50 AM
horizontal rule
73

70: that book is f'in' amazing. Totally blew my mind when I read it.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 12-18-07 11:55 AM
horizontal rule