I am trained to not swoon to this look. He looks like every one of my male students.
He needs a haircut (and to lose the bracelet).
Does nothing for me, sartorially or otherwise.
Thank, Ben, that's what I thought you meant.
How do we know how much a kilogram weighs, Ben?
He's a good-looking young guy. Mostly to do with (facial) bone structure and slim hips.
A haircut, Ben? You're not serious.
How do we know how much a kilogram weighs, Ben?
I believe there's an object in Paris?
(Not a haircut. His hair as it stands is annoying, though, and something needs doing.)
I looked it up online, though, and I see now that you're talking about intraperitoneal hemorrhage.
I believe there's an object in Paris?
Precisely. Precisely. And what is that object called?
I have no idea.
I believe its analog in the realm of length is called Labs' cock, though.
I like the sweater and the pants, but the jacket repels me. I can see how it works on him, and yet a part of my brain rebels.
I do wish I could get my hair to do that, though.
C'est un prototype, non? It has a name? Like the Hope Diamond?
16: See, I like the jacket fine, but have come to fucking loathe the faux old man pants rocked by so many 21 yr olds.
11b.: Ben, if I have to try to find something annoying about this guy, I suppose I might think he has product in his hair.
Otherwise, really, he's just a guy walking down the street, looking comfortable in his skin, and he happens to be good-looking.
I do wish I could get my hair to do that, though.
But you would be a walking cliché!
We may distinguish two possibilities. In the first, you do not realize you are a walking cliché. That would be unfortunate, but perhaps not so bad. You might grow out of it. The situation remains one which is not choiceworthy. In the second, you do. This makes you a cliché of a different sort, and also reprehensible. This list is exhaustive.
I …have come to fucking loathe the faux old man pants rocked by so many 21 yr olds.
sometimes people keep asking me why i dress in grandpa clothes. UM, BECAUSE GRAND DAD DRESSES REALLY FUCKING COOL is why. i mean, CHECK THIS GUY OUT!! The skyblue jacket with maroon sweater vest, over mustard button up shirt, with jazz hat (with rhineseone encrusted music note pins on it ) and huge glasses with wood trim -- DAMN.
There was a sort of grandpa sweater at this store in the Haight I kind of wanted some five weeks ago, but didn't purchase. Bave was wearing a grandpa sweater at udcon2. It worked.
Those pants don't even seem so old-man to me. Maybe I'm further gone than I realized.
But you would be a walking cliché!
A small price to pay for having messy hair that appears artfully messy instead of just un-combed. That is, I'd loathe myself if I spent minutes in front of a mirror trying to look ungroomed, but I'd be thrilled if my hair, of its own accord, assumed hipster-shape.
21: Old man sweaters are ok. And frankly I can't see enough of the pants in this pic to be sure, but they are highly suggestive of old man pants. To which, again, je dis non.
Don't wash your hair for a couple of days, and it might do that, if it happens to be cut that way.
But I understand from the few of the comments I've read on that site that this guy has been seen before, so apparently he's studied.
I just can't take this stuff seriously. Grandpa clothes are fine. I have several thin cardigans with sleeves that extend closely down over my wrists and palms: excellent. There's nothing remotely affected about it.
There's nothing remotely affected about it.
Well, sure, not if you do it. That's what they all claim.
Let's give this a whirl, shall we?
Insofar as IPH is (we may assume) quite concerned that his hair appear artfully messy, it is in fact not messy at all—that's it's finished state. Hence, it is simply A Mess.
That didn't really work, did it? But the point is this: looking at IPH one doesn't see someone whose hair is a mess but who somehow looks good anyway, whose messy hair in fact even contributes to his look. One sees someone who wants so to be seen. (Whether or not his hair actually is merely messy or productized or whatever is immaterial.) The obviousness of what he's attempting prevents him from accomplishing it, since what he's attempting is the sort of thing where art, if present, must be concealed with extreme art.
His hair is third from the truth, is what I'm saying.
Also one sees far too much of it, and it's silly.
He looks kind of discomfited to me, pace parsley.
23: Oh, so picture say stereotypical old white man clothes. Golf oriented, kinda cheapy thin material, sporting a plaid, perhaps, but in a downmarket not at all preppie way.
I can believe that in parsimon's case there's nothing affected about it.
This gives me that "get off my lawn" kind of feeling. Because I don't find that appealing in the slightest, but I can see how the young people would.
(Oh, and no one has to reassure me that I'm not really old. I know that. I'm just not in touch with the youth!)
Ben's just jealous because his hair could never possibly do that.
Open question: Should I go for a buzz cut?
I rock old man fashion by wearing a diaper.
It seems like the zero-degree of the "artful messiness" style -- it communicates the message that I don't pay attention to my hair, but does not require any actual work to maintain.
I'm with Di. I dont even see this as a good style.
He looks kind of discomfited to me, pace parsley.
I see that, but I can easily interpret it as a tired, annoyed smirk.
The obviousness of what he's attempting prevents him from accomplishing it, since what he's attempting is the sort of thing where art, if present, must be concealed with extreme art.
Man, you're reaching. IPH (I'm not bothering to deduce what that means) is just being a slightly fashionista guy. It works. He's the kind of guy you see at an off-center art opening and nod at, see whether he's conversationally any good, move on. BFD.
37: IPH=International Prototype Hipster? I happened upon it all-unknowing in 17, I guess.
Wait, how come when that guy has hair going all over the place, he looks young and hip, but when I have hair going all over the place, I look like a rumpled college professor?!
Apparently dishevelled hair reveals one's true self?
Also, that dude has dark circles under his eyes, and it makes him look Dangerous and Mysterious. I have those eyes and I just look Tired.
If that was a posed photograph, presumably a non-negligible amount of styling went into that hair.
27: So he's guilty of insufficient hair sprezzatura?
But once you start down that cycle you're basically fucked, it's studied indifference all the way down.
He is a stylist!! He is such a nice guy.
Compatible?
But once you start down that cycle you're basically fucked, it's studied indifference all the way down.
Studied awkwardness is so much better.
34: I rock old man fashion by wearing a diaper.
Un indicateur de pauvreté humaine
Which is a completely valid description of the topic of this thread, though perhaps not in the sense that those Frenchies originally meant it.
Whoops, 49 was me. Nasty old Emerson used my computer during his recent sojourn here in Ice City.
Damn you auto-fill!
He's the kind of guy you see at an off-center art opening
EXACTLY. And he dresses the part, too.
45: well, right. Better not to get started on that road. I find that having naturally curly hair helps.
Studied awkwardness is so much better.
A recent exchange:
A: My sense of smell isn't particularly acute.
B: Is any of your senses particularly acute?
A: Awkwardness.
51: s/b:
A:I once knew a hipster who didn't have a nose.
B:How did he smell?
A:Awkwardly!
I wonder though if this guy could really be the international prototype hipster. Surely in other nations, for instance those of Europe, not to mention in the mysterious East, other, or perhaps merely more advanced, standards of hipster prevail.
29:
I can believe that in parsimon's case there's nothing affected about it.
Oddly, I take this as a compliment. Comfortable in one's skin.
Adam, don't go for a buzz cut: everybody has one.
But that exchange didn't take place recently, minnie.
One commenter describes seeing this hipster and describes him as "very Parisian."
I don't care. I want to drag down the level of discourse to third grade sense of humor, all this talk of hipsters unsettles me.
55: Adam, don't go for a buzz cut: everybody has one.
Yeah, their so popular that no one gets them any more.
Does nothing for me, sartorially or otherwise.
Me neither. And it doesn't even give me that "get off my lawn" feeling, because I'm sure I would have had the same reaction when I was young.
Someone with that look probably isn't going places where they have lawns.
The top outfit featured in 63 is acceptable. The skinny jeans in the bottom picture must go.
61: Just couldn't resist, could you, w-lfs-n?
Eh, he's a cute boy. I just react badly to his twee. He does not, however, say parisien to me, but then the French boys I know are 10+ years older.
Shorter oudemia: Get off my lawn.
61: Yep. No one spells it "any more" anymore. They're too concerned about their image as a hipster.
EXACTLY. And he dresses the part, too.
Honestly, what else do you expect to see at an off-center art opening?
Don't you guys walk around, you know, outside and such? You see people showing various looks. To the extent that there are looks I find annoying, IPH's isn't one of them.
-- Whoa. Edited to note that the pictures linked in 63 change my mind. Oh no.
The pop of teal peaking [sic] of [sic] of the sleeves just completes it.
I remember when "pop" meant soda to me. Now it means "if I ever meet this person in real life I'm going to kill them."
i don't know he looks cachexic, and the jacket is undersize and the hair is weird
overall sick like due to illness
i found someone looked like me, but they are mean in comments
63 also prompts me to revise my earlier statement.
The first photo (a young man carrying a pair of shopping bags, with some sort of dog that should have been a cat) not only gives me that "get off my lawn" feeling, but also inspires a "come over here and let me hit you with my cane" feeling.
I like his pants on the top photo of 63. Those jeans are awful, though.
Is the with the bottom photo in 63 the jeans, or that he's comically top-heavy?
I assume you meant to include a "problem" in there, Ben.
The problem is with the jeans in combination with the ... what are those, high-heeled boots? Then the tightly-wrapped scarf, resulting in top-heaviness. Really bad. Add in the little dog, and I just feel badly for the guy.
Yes, right, of course, "problem".
For these guys I have nothing but approval.
54: other, or perhaps merely more advanced, standards of hipster prevail.
Hey, where's the American Gladiator blogging that I've come to expect from this site. You folks are losing your mojo.
78: Those guys are natty dressers. I believe is the term. You can't do that every day, though. Uh, I mean, unless you want to.
I agree with w-lfs-n. 78 a and b are far preferable to the pillock in the post.
The pillock in the post has the pellet with the poison, the gents with the vents hold the brew that is true.
The Wire rules, my west coast bitches.
I dimly remember reading an interview with Shane McGowan in which the in retrospect depressingly degenerate alcoholic Pogue slurred something that sounded to the interviewer like "Hip and cool are two different things. Only very few people can be both cool and hip at the same time, like Charlie Parker."
'The square is seldom if ever cool,' says Bloomquist. 'He's not with it,' that is, he doesn't know 'what's happening.' But if he manages to figure it out, he moves up a notch to 'hip.' And if he can bring himself to approve of what's happening, he becomes 'groovy.' And after that, with much luck and perseverance, he can rise to the rank of 'cool.'"
I just want to preen about the fact that my own hair is being awesomely fluffy this evening. Hello, my hair! Let me fondle you.
that dude has dark circles under his eyes, and it makes him look Dangerous and Mysterious. I have those eyes and I just look Tired.
Somewhere Douglas Adams and John Lloyd define a word for the sort of annoying bastard who turns up an hour late for the party, unshaven and wearing a dirty suit with no tie, who still manages to look more handsome and dashing than anyone else there.
The word you're looking for, Gonerill, is "skinny".
Is 91 by Douglas Adams, from beyond the grave?
90 was me.
88 sounds familiar. Is it from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
93: Yeah, from the anti-drug conference.
In my apartment building, we mainly have people who either (a) are U of M undergrads, (b) go to the law school, or (c) go to the nearby art school. This guy looks like every art school student I've ever seen.
91 was me. I did feel the presence of an otherworldly spirit, however.
The word you're looking for, Gonerill, is "skinny".
Actually, the word I was looking for is draffan.
But skinny men don't always appeal to the laydeez. I mean, think about it: there's already so much pressure on women to starve themselves into a size 2, and then some guy comes along who has an even smaller waist size? Who needs that kind of competition?
Just saying.
You would believe the internet over an otherworldly spirit? You kids today, you have no respect for the old ways. You probably trust your newfangled "barometer" to predict the weather over goat innards, don't you.
that dude has dark circles under his eyes, and it makes him look Dangerous and Mysterious.
Dangerous = IV drug user who might bite my torso and give me a disease.
Mysterious = Which disease will it be?
His jacket in the first picture is fine. (I have a similar one in green. Which I frequently wear with brown cords. To art openings.) But the pants are boring and the whole outfit is a little too monochrome for my taste.
I guess we know who the hipster is around here.
100: But what about the Pop of Teal, Populuxe? What about that, eh?
94: 93: Yeah, from the anti-drug conference.
Yes, I think Thompson was actually quoting from a real book. Here is a link to a review of one of Bloomquist's books, but I don't have access (I think there are couple available on Amazon). HST says it is from p 49 of whatever book, maybe he made it all up, but Dr. Bloomquist was an anti-drug author from that time.
Has anyone noted that this guy's jacket is highly reminiscent of a Member's Only?
Many, many details are different. But I feel strongly that if you asked a fashion designer to create a New Member's Only, it would look like this. The vertical pockets up high are a dead giveaway. Ineffably Today, yet O So Done.
Just sayin'.
what about the Pop of Teal, Populuxe?
I'm indifferent to teal. Or maybe my monitor's dying.
Ben, if I have to try to find something annoying about this guy, I suppose I might think he has product in his hair.
I want to take this opportunity to announce to everyone that I used a (small) amount of product in my hair at DCon. There, I said it.
I would argue that since product takes about three seconds to apply, anyone who takes more than three seconds to choose their clothes in the morning has no basis to look down on product users.
I really can't stand "product" as a mass noun.
107: Some are too shy to use the word "semen."
106.1 such was clear, PGD, no worries.
PGD --- I'm pretty sure that people who object to the use of `product' aren't objecting to the time it took.
No mercy expected...none received!
But stigmatized groups will never be accepted if brave individuals are not willing to come out of the closet.
Mysterious = Which disease will it be?
some sort of personality disorder
I wear 'product' in my hair. Jesus, it's a perfectly normal thing to do.
107: Some are too shy to use the word "semen."
The fact that this made me laugh out loud is clear evidence that I am really a 14 year old boy, isnt it?
We called product grease. Will, my laughing out loud is clear evidence I am a 13 year old pretending to be 62.
115: Well, my reaction was to wash my hair. So, I guess you win.
We called product grease. Will, my laughing out loud is clear evidence I am a 13 year old pretending to be 62.
I'm glad that I am not alone Mary Jo.
We called product grease
Today's product is far more technologically advanced.
Today's product is far more technologically advanced. carefully packaged
There, fixed that for you.
I wore a bandanna over my hair to paint my bedroom this weekend. When I finally took it off my hair stood straight up. I looked like a little troll toy. It was awesome. I felt unstoppable.
huh. what is up with knocking skinny men?
esp. from women who object to size standards for themselves??
to each his own! this data point is always drawn to skinny guys... without thinking about it, i usually end up with boyfriends whose waists are no more than a couple inches bigger than my own. if i had to guess, it might be related to not wanting to be too egregiously smaller/of less body volume/outmuscled by the person i will end up in bed with... but long lines also just look beautiful.
and i will admit i had previously saved a tab of this guy's photo, in smaller size (which looks better), before seeing it on unfogged, because i liked it. the jacket & collar are great. plus he looks like he would be quick to share a laugh with you if you met him on the street.
i am feeling suspicious that you on unfogged are in favor of men looking boring. ? no? are you sure?
huh. what is up with knocking skinny men?
esp. from women who object to size standards for themselves??
Heh.
