No, see, that's why it's such successful obfuscation. It fools not only bots but little bitches too.
But from whom else would one want to hear?!
No, he's referring to Dotoryx gazella.
Deleting the hierarchical level referenced by a species of antelope would perhaps be better, sure.
I'm not so impressed with him. I don't even know who he is.
It's a "web log", B. They have them on the "internet". Which you're "logged on to", "troll".
Crooked Timber links to him a lot.
His pre-blog notebooks are fantastic reading.
I thought it was internets, with an S.
I thought it was internets, with an S.
Every time you use "internets," the terrorists win.
I very much like Mr. Shalizi's book recommendations. I've been reading heavily from those.
not on topic, but this seems to belong on Unfogged:
Heterosexuality is a house of cards that can collapse at any time.
That would have been more impressive if I'd linked it correctly.
Heterosexuality is a house of cards that can collapse at any time.
Megan, who is Mr Shalizi? Respect to the Prof. please.
My bad. Sorry about that, Dr. Shalizi.
With only a Master's degree, and the attitude of an utter dickwad, one can insist on being addressed as Master.
one can insist on being addressed as Master.
"Master" is how one addresses thirteen-year-old boys.
However, Shalizi isn't the kind of doctor who can have you take off your clothes so he can stick his fingers in your butt, etc.
And neither is Heebie, but neither one of them is going to tell you that.
Master is how one addresses Dick Grayson.
I was reading Cosma as early as 96-97 or so.
Though actually I wasn't all that impressed by him then.
Cosma has an extraordinarily broad range of interests.
And Doctor is a game played by youngsters. I agree, Mr. and Ms. are for adults.
"Master" is how one addresses thirteen-year-old boys.
ATM
@21: Not at all; hearing "Dr. Shalizi" still makes me look around for my father.
@24: However, Shalizi isn't the kind of doctor who can have you take off your clothes: dammit, Emerson, was there any need to spoil things like that?
@27: For the record, I also don't think I was all that impressive at the age of 22.
OMFG, you were 22 then? Then you definitely were impressive.
Megan, who is Mr Shalizi? Respect to the Prof. please.
Count me as another`Dr.' who laughs when people get hung up on the honorifics.
Reading your Computational Mechanics notes, Cosma; boss!
Damn, Cosma, you've put a lot of stuff online. I'll have to wander through it soon. Thanks.
19 is hilarious. From here on out, everyone who comments here and holds a doctorate must be addressed as "Dr."
Or, you know, not.
As a rule, I'm much more comfortable addressing people by honorific and last name. Respect was a big deal for me, growing up. Westerners don't like it, though, and I'm older, so I try to remember to call rough age-peers by first name.
I have a doctorate where it counts. Doctoyez-moi.
With only a Master's degree, and the attitude of an utter dickwad, one can insist on being addressed as Master.
I read somewhere that Kierkegaard joked he should be referred to as a Master of Irony, or something like that.
The Bitch Dr. embraces redundancy, soup biscuit. She throws her arms around it.
38: call rough age-peers by first name.
And gentle age-peers, you can address as "Hey you!", like what are they going to do about it?
Isn't Dr. bitchphd redundant?
Coming and going. From the front and the Back.
He would answer to "Hi!" or to any loud cry,
Such as "Fry me!" or "Fritter my wig!"
To "What-you-may-call-um!" or "What-was-his-name!"
But especially "Thing-um-a-jig!"
While, for those who preferred a more forcible word,
He had different names from these:
His intimate friends called him "Candle-ends,"
And his enemies "Toasted-cheese."
I had a professor in college who was insulted when you called him Dr. His response was "Anyone can be a doctor; I am a Professor."
In Ireland and the UK (male) surgeons are called "mister," not "doctor." Used to be that they were glorified barbers, not doctors; now it's that they want to distinguish themselves from mere holders of an MD without further training. Not sure what the female ones are called.
With only a Master's degree, and the attitude of an utter dickwad, one can insist on being addressed as Master.
In Austria, one commonly addresses holders of a Masters degree as "Herr/Frau Magister".
The Germans are bad enough with their "Herr Doktor" and "Herr Doktor Professor / Frau Doktor Professorin" shit, but the Austrians really take it to extremes: "Herr Diplom-Ingenieur," "Herr Baumeister", and so on.
Maybe it's the legacy of the Habsburg monarchy or something, but everyone feels the need to have an honorific. I worked with a woman who no college degree or other formal title, but she had advanced far enough in the company to hold a Prokura, or the legal standing to sign documents on behalf of the company. Naturally, she was "Frau Prokuristin".
Further to 51: although the practice has fallen somewhat out of favor, the proper formal address in Germany/Austria for someone with two PhD's is "Herr/Frau Doktor Doktor".
51/52. I hate to say that I love that. If you are going to do the credential-honorifics, go all the way. OTOH, it does suck for people like Frau Prokuristin, before she was frocked.
Ah, a different form of credential inflation from the one we have here. Everyone must have a credential, but only one, and it need not be impressive in any way!
52: When I worked at the German Fulbright Commission, one of my jobs was maintaining all the databases. And as you'd expect, there are tons of higher degreed people on Fulbright's mailing lists. What a nightmare. Herr Doktor Doktor rer. nat. Soundso.
Have you ever bought symphony tickets for the Wiener Staatsoper? The dropdown menu of titles is hilarious.
Doktor Doktor geben mir die Nachrichten
mich habe einen schlechten Fall vom Lieben Sie
keiner Pille, die geht, meinen Kranken zu kurieren
ich habe einen schlechten Fall vom Lieben Sie
I diagnose a bad case of babelfishitis.
Blume, that's wicked.
What a list! Mag. Dr. and MAG. DR.
The Opera's list of countries is also mighty impressive.
Ah, yes. Das Deutschische Mo-Berg. Or maybe "der".
"Goodman" and "Goodwife" are the minimal titles in English, if you don't have any other title. Without a title you're presumably a slave, a servant, non-white, or some kind of lowlife.
I imagine the MAG. DR. one being for someone who is always annoyed that people are forgetting his title, and who is always pushily reminding them.
Can the titles Goodman and Goodwife be removed? Did that happen in the case of Hester Prynne? Was the A short for her new title?
My understanding is that Goodman and Goodwife indicated social status rather than any moral judgment on the person in question.
Check out how many Austrian* death notices describe the deceased as Hausbesitzersgattin (wife of a homeowner).
*There are a few German ones there as well, but they seem to be mostly from border areas along the River Inn.
63: Yes, they're titles in that sense: "Minimally-respectable X".
It's a train station and a brook! It's a fish and a frau!
If unfogged were a musical, 72 would be the moment that this thread broke into song.
If unfogged were a musical, 72 would be the moment that this thread broke into song.
(And I guess I'm the repetitive chorus.)
Speaking of credentials, oh boy! My dissertation defense is Friday, in a state I do not currently inhabit. A member of my committee, in yet another state, just called to tell me that she has an ear infection and will probably not be able to fly. Normally, all committee members must be there in person. Now I get to spend tomorrow trying to get special dispensation for a video conference, and then dealing with the technical stuff at a distance if I do get permission. Somewhere in this week I must also prepare my defense, because I spent last week largely on a campus visit and the week before that largely on preparing for said campus visit. Holy frijoles, the week AFTER next I am going to sleep like a rock.
I'll bet you can't wait to hear the chimes play that tune.
(Alternately: The People's flag is painted red.)
Normally, all committee members must be there in person. Now I get to spend tomorrow trying to get special dispensation for a video conference, and then dealing with the technical stuff at a distance if I do get permission.
I did a defense a while ago via iChat. Worked great. My argument with the University about allowing this was that co-presence (in the sociological sense) was what was really required, not mere presence. If I had to fly back from where I was for the defense to happen I would have been present, but asleep.
Yes, I think as soon as I get past the gatekeeper of the grad assistant and get my advisor talking to the dean, all should be well. Just, dude, I would rather not be spending all my prep time having long-distance conversations with mysterious holders of the department technology. If it were in the university where I currently spend all my time, it would be easy peasy. Oh well, it should give me something to entertain me in between bouts of poking at my presentation.
everyone feels the need to have an honorific
Good god, this is true in much of Latin America. Everyone's an ingeniero/a, which as far as I can tell, means they got the equivalent of a BA or a BS. Maybe mano negra can clarify.
poking at my presentation.
I recommend this approach.
Superb plan! I'll go buy some steak knives after work tomorrow.
Good luck with the defense!
I had a committee member present via conference call.
Herr Doktor Doktor rer. nat. Soundso.
You can get a degree in Lucretius?
Thanks very much for the good wishes! Hope also for indulgent administrators (the bylaws standardly provide for an emergency substitution instead) on my behalf.
Good luck, rfts! Defend thy disserting well.
Congratulations ahead of time, rfts! You will be brilliant.
good luck rfts, soon you'll be Frau Doktor rfts and then if you move countries you can become Frau Doktor Prof.
Poland's got the German honorofic system too, though most people no longer address each other as 'Panie magistrze', which is fortunate given that it's the standard initial degree. On the other hand it still definitely is Panie profesorze - and if you're writing to them 'Wielce szanowany Panie profesorze hab.' - Greatly honored sir professor with habilitation (the degree that follows the Ph.D. in central Europe)
Or I guess I should say you'll soon be Pani doktor Krzak ogonowy czerwonego lisa.
Does our Doctor have a degree in Math or in Miracles?
I do love all the European credential arabesques.
I got all my bylaws straightened out. Hooray! Now if I can just get my other committee members to stop being petulant about the fact that they were endlessly coy and reluctant to RSVP about times of day so that now their delicate needs are not entirely exquisitely accommodated each one in equal measure, I will truly have a stellar time.