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No one tell Stephen Colbert.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 11:58 AM
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It's interesting to realize just how much of an impact he had on pop culture. Dungeons and Dragons influences are all over a zillion different media and subcultures, both content and (generally for the worse) style.


Posted by: Bruce Baugh | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:00 PM
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* pours bottle of Keoghish Amber on the ground *

Dungeons and Dragons influences are all over a zillion different media and subcultures...

When I was going to school in Providence in the '90s, it was notable how many of the Fort Thunder art-punk/noise bands (including, of course, Lightning Bolt) were using clip art from the Fiend Folio and such in their posters.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:03 PM
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I played and played, but only with one friend who lived out of town. When he came over we stayed up all night. I was DM, he had four characters at a time, which is deprecated but inevitable. The version of the game where all the dorky enthusiasts broke through their sportsless isolation to find one another and play regular, world-building games should be regarded as apotheoetical, not as standard.

My friend's characters were named "Spyro", "Gyro", "Clytt", and "Ass Bladder" (an assassin, of course). I recently included those in a toast to him at his wedding.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:04 PM
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I never really played; in theory, I'm the sort of person who should have, but I didn't have any friends who did.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:08 PM
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Stand back. I'm a 7th level cleric.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:14 PM
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No more necromancing to Gary Gygax.

Oh, wait.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:18 PM
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Nice headline.

Although when we played, we generally considered 0 HP to signify unconsciousness.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:20 PM
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Cease the romancing! Begin the necroromancing!

Seriously though, I never knew anyone who played Dungeons and Dragons. I thought it was obsolete by the mid-90s. This turned out not to be quite true, though.

I only knew people into Magic: The Gathering, and to a lesser extent Vampire: The Masquerade. Games without colons in the title just couldn't cut it.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:22 PM
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Aw, man. I always thought he got screwed out of TSR.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:22 PM
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Wow. My life would have been very different had I not been introduced to D&D by a friend in the fourth grade.

For instance, I probably would have had a girlfriend in high school.

Gary Gygax, level 21 cockblocker, rest in peace.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:29 PM
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Speaking of D&D, anybody who played, or knew people who played, might enjoy The Order of the Stick, if it happens to be unknown to them.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:29 PM
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The Order of the Stick.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:30 PM
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Do you know, it's interesting that back in hs the D&D crowd were the untouchables, and yet as an adult, y'all are the cool guys. How'd that come about?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:31 PM
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Accutane.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:35 PM
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I think it came about in part through the assumption of facts not in evidence, and in part through the increased economic status of actual nerds causing those who merely like nerdy things to shine with a reflected light.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:35 PM
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Now the news is saying that the Egg of Coot got 'im.

My best friend in High School ran an awesome Greyhawk campaign one summer. He was still is a naturally gifted storyteller, actor, and all around funny guy. He would act out the part of every non-playing character, usually providing different voices for each. I'm sure that summer's acquired the glow of nostalgia in my memory, but I remember it as one of the best vacations ever.

For instance, I probably would have had a girlfriend in high school.

I knew several girls who played with us. One of them was another friend's sister. Very cute--and once she and I made out while our party was traveling through the Bandit Kingdoms.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:38 PM
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According to one of the links, he made a saving throw against an abdominal aneurysm, which is pretty lucky.

14: Dude, most of us are still nerds, we just talk politics now.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:40 PM
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I knew several girls who played with us. One of them was another friend's sister. Very cute--and once she and I made out while our party was traveling through the Bandit Kingdoms Canada.

Fixed.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:41 PM
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I knew several girls who played with us
IYKWIM.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:42 PM
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Damn, that's the best Unfogged headline ever.

I loved D&D (not surprising) but got too embarassed to play it sometime after puberty.

It was great training for becoming a scriptwriter -- half the fantasy, S/F, and horror movies and TV shows seem to show signs that the authors were role-players during their formative years.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:42 PM
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For instance, I probably would have had a girlfriend in high school.

Gary Gygax, level 21 cockblocker, rest in peace

That made me laugh.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:43 PM
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assumption of facts not in evidence??

FWIW, I did actually date D&D geeks in hs. But you guys are much cuter than they were.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:44 PM
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What is the point of an NPC left unperformed? I ask you!

My dad bought me a D&D box set for beginners when I was about eight, but as I had no one to play with and no idea quite what the concept was, it gathered dust. In college, however, I spent a good bit of time swanning around pretending to be a vampire and that sort of thing.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:45 PM
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Can't none of us roll 20s forever. See you at tha crossroads, son.


Posted by: Tom | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:45 PM
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No more necromancing to Gary Gygax.

Also, no more masturbating to Brett Favre's football career.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:45 PM
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But you guys are much cuter than they were.

Ah, the magic of lowered standards.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:46 PM
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#19. Have you known the sweet delights of the Rift Canyon, Flippanter? Have you?


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:48 PM
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27: Or possibly late-onset puberty.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:49 PM
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Have you known the sweet delights of the Rift Canyon, Flippanter? Have you?

Not for a couple of weeks now, and it's getting on my nerves.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:49 PM
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14: We're the cool guys? When did this happen? I wish someone would tell me these things.

My group will know the sweet delights of the Rift Canyon on Thursday night, when they wade into the midst of a giant vs. dragon war.


Posted by: zadfrack | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:57 PM
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FWIW, I did actually date D&D geeks in hs.

Aren't you currently married to one? I doubt Mr. B plays now, but surely he must have at some point?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:57 PM
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Knew a quite a few guys who played, probably because I was in band. I never did. Gotta draw the line somewhere.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 12:59 PM
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32: Totally. My boyfriend, however, never played D&D in his life. Nor has he ever seen Star Wars.

This is pretty much ot, though it's about sex, but you guys really should watch this video. Sexual content by implication, but totally SFW.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:01 PM
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Robert? Don't you have a funny story about a date vis à vis D&D?

CA and I recently found stacks of graph paper on which he had designed dungeons in middle school.

A particularly charming episode of Freaks and Greeks was about the geeks teaching super hott freak James Franco how to play D&D. (He loved it.)

(Additionally, I feel comfortable saying that 90% of male classicists in my age group got into myth-stuff and later Latin, etc. because of D&D.)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:06 PM
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35: Do I? I can't think of one. I've got plenty of pathetic geek stories relating to my D&D experience, but I can't think of which one you are referring to.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:09 PM
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The Wiki article says that Gygax got frozen out of TSR b/c he was devoting too much time to the D&D cartoon series, which suggests a staggering lack of judgment.

It's a kitschy pleasure I guess, but his personality is all over AD&D, and it was striking how the terrible 2d ed. bled that out without replacing it with any soul whatsoever. The current Wizards of the Coast (= "revenge of Magic: The Gathering") version seems pretty cool, but my prospects as a 38-year-old lawyer and father of two seem pretty g.d. slim.


Posted by: Anderson | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:10 PM
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My brother played but I never learned properly. He let me read some books like the Fiend Folio but never the Dungeon Master's Guide.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:12 PM
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Freaks and Geeks: Carlos the Dwarf


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:15 PM
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I was a Dungeon Master in late elementary school/middle school, starting with D&D and then moving up to AD&D soon after.

I remember taking a peek at the "2nd edition" rules later on and what struck me is how the new books lacked any of the mystery and intrigue that those big old hardcovers had back in the day. RIP, Gary.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:17 PM
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People, I'm not kidding. Click on the link in 34.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:17 PM
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41 seconded. Very funny.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:19 PM
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38: That is awesome. The Dungeon Master Guide was too intense and too powerful for you to see, SP!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:22 PM
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Gary Gygax was worse that Bill Clinton.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:25 PM
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I last played in high school, in the classic friend's basement on the classic plywood-over-sawhorses table. The DM was a massive Duran Duran fan who, according to my younger sibling, has come out in later life. I was so naive that at the time I had no clue. The other players included another wuffly-haired wuss-band enthusiast who carried a knife, a friend of mine with whom I've lost touch since we went off to different colleges, another guy who was arrested for bringing a gun to school after I graduated, and a friend of the DM's who seemed to me the very model of an '80s ladies' man, for what reasons I cannot recall but probably because he had a girlfriend and a car. We spent a lot of time arguing about what do after our characters were arrested upon leaving the inevitable start-of-adventure tavern: Break out of jail? Teleport? Bribe the guards to restore our thief's lockpicks?

Not bad memories, exactly, but my memories of the game are a little thin compared to the recollections of people who went to high schools where nerds and geeks were thicker underfoot.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:34 PM
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Cucumbers are illegal in Texas. How will this affect tonight's results?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:34 PM
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Gary Gygax is the reason any of us knew what the word "charisma" meant long before we met Bill Clinton.

I remember considering my own personal S-I-W-D-Co-Ch scores as a scrawny eleven-year-old. "I'm not very strong," I said, "but I bet I have high dexterity." My friend swung a pull-up bar at me and hit me in the leg.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:37 PM
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Cute, wrongshore.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:42 PM
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March 4 is in fact World Game Masters Day. I pour out a potion of Cure Light Wounds in his honor.

I consider gaming one of the joint activities important to my and Rah's relationship success.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:54 PM
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I have to say, though I started out playing AD & D, Gygax isn't a particularly strong figure for me.

I have much more of a sense of Steve Jackson, for example, as a personality. In part because he has much more of an on-line persona.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 1:54 PM
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8: Yeah, isn't death -10 HP?

Anyway, RIP.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 2:01 PM
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Woot has a bunch of Gygax jokes that are good enough to almost make you feel bad for the guy.


Posted by: Tom | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 2:21 PM
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I remember considering my own personal S-I-W-D-Co-Ch scores as a scrawny eleven-year-old.

For characters, I would constantly reroll these scores until most were good and one was exceptional. I often had occasion in later years to reflect that nature does not do this with us.

I pour out a potion of Cure Light Wounds

Cure light wounds is indeed indispensable.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 3:44 PM
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Does anybody still game as an adult?


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 3:44 PM
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54, see 49, also this


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 3:51 PM
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My brother-in-law, and I'm sort of jealous.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 4:01 PM
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56 to 54.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 4:01 PM
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Does anybody still game as an adult?

Now we blog.

I left the last incarnation of my D&D group in high school when the truly dedicated (and cute!) DM moved on for some reason and it became a bunch of truly geeky guys who were too distracted by the presence of two girls (me and my friend) to play properly. They sniggered, they postured, and good lord, one of them fancied himself a ladies man. Too bad!


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 4:10 PM
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Now we blog.

or worse, comment on blogs.

My brother-in-law, and I'm sort of jealous.

I'm vaguely jealous as well. I loved the mapping and world-creation part of DMing. Doubt I'd have time today though.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 4:17 PM
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55: Wow, it's really weird to see that linked anywhere at all.

I consider gaming one of the joint activities important to my and Rah's relationship success.

I should clarify, on seeing that again: it's not that I only love him for gaming, it's that (a) he doesn't mind and in fact likes that I game and (b) it's something creative and fun we get to do together and with our friends. It's a great way for us to step out of the world together without having to find someone to sell us acid.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 4:33 PM
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They should totally create a "Gygax" creature for the next edition of the Monster Manual. It even sounds monstery.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 5:11 PM
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Okay, this is the funniest D&D-related video ever. End of story.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 5:18 PM
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62: Nope. Not even close.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 6:08 PM
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I stand by my decision.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 6:36 PM
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This is a true story, no shit. The guy who introduced D&D to my prestigious boarding school way back in 1976 (!) had learned from a guy who had learned from Mr. Gygax (allegedly). This friend told me if I ever wanted to date a girl again, never admit that I played D&D. I was the only "jock" that was in our group, and of course the rest all became software pioneers, etc. We wasted many hours, none of which I would trade.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 7:27 PM
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I loved the mapping and world-creation part of DMing.

That was actually the part I loved the best, too; I learned a lot of history and cartography that way.

Does anybody still game as an adult?

The friend I mentioned in #17--he and his wife are still my best friends--still runs games now and then. But now he has a basement to devote to them. The idea still appeals to me, but I don't have the time or the space to do so. I'm jealous of people who do.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 03- 4-08 7:45 PM
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Does anybody still game as an adult?

I only ever gamed as an adult. The rules are somewhat complex for children, no?


Posted by: double-plus-ungood | Link to this comment | 03- 5-08 12:48 AM
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I used to play D&D up until I was 14 or 15 and discovered "advanced getting hella wasted all the time". even after that I guess I would DM for my brother and his friends. making fantasy worlds up: fun!


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 03- 5-08 7:09 AM
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