The true message of the posts is hidden in their differences. It's surprising.
I didn't mean to delete the version of this post that had Witt's comment. Played by movable type. Hélas!
It was just once, it meant nothing...
The one reference to unfogged in wikipedia is a defense of that kind of thing.
Actually, it's not so easy to say what "this kind of thing" is. I was going to end the post by saying "Ephebophilia. It's real.", but the following factors need to be taken into consideration:
1. She is made up, and dressed, as an older person would be
2. It's quite common for people in my general age group to attempt to look like recent postpubescents
3. (This is specific to the term) Ephebophilia is attraction to pubescents/immediate postpubescents exclusively or as such.
(The reference to which Zip alludes. Fifteen to twenty-five seems an awfully broad range.)
Right, so .... Uh, let's see: Ben, people grow into and through love! Start with 14 (can be pretty hot, you know), she eventually becomes 35, and your standards of beauty change.
No? How about: what the fuck is Paper? Or: What did Witt say? Or: ageist.
Or.
So you like that look, eh? She does look like she might be as old as twenty, and like you could beat her in arm-wrestling, so I'm inclined to give you a pass on this one.
It didn't even occur to me that the photos might be online.
Or: what's your point? I seem to want to ask.
What did Witt say?
Witt made a cutting remark about the fact that there were briefly two versions of this post.
Or: what's your point? I seem to want to ask.
These things have to have a point now?
Or: honey, the point's in the writing.
2. It's quite common for people in my general age group to attempt to look like recent postpubescents
Does that make you think that people in your general age group are idiots?
Hard to say. The conclusion's overdetermined.
entirely without proairesis
I think you're baiting me, but I'm choosing not to be taken in.
I wasn't aware that that was an avenue by which you could be baited.
You prefer the transliteration "prohairesis"?
I doubt the possibility of acting without proairesis, outside of things like recoiling from a hot stove, etc.
As you know, ogged, appetite can move each of our bodily parts (1147a35).
You might also look at this paper, except you can't.
Cf. 1146b22–4: For the one [ie, the self-indulgent] is led on in accordance with his own choice, thinking that he ought always to pursue the present pleasure; while the other [ie the akratic] does not think so, but yet pursues it
; of course that only says that the akratic doesn't believe that he ought to pursue the present pleasure, but I don't think it's a stretch to think that he also isn't acting in accordance with his choice.
I thought we'd discussed my rejection of akrasia before, and that's why I thought you were baiting me.
I seem to have been baited by my own petard.
Oh, right, that's true. If you deny the phenomena, you don't need to suppose that you can act w/o proairesis, but then, you also don't even need the concept of proairesis as Aristotle develops it.
I don't remember how he develops it, so I defer to you on that one.
Sadly, I puzzle over what a rejection of akrasia might amount to. All I can see is a realignment of one's understanding of what constitutes one's proper judgment. This is not an unknown thing.
This is utterly not my field, of course, as is obvious.
Y'all are making me smile. As for the point being in the writing, b-wo, of course.
4: I think that this gets half credit. Or is it in the same class as the confidence trick (thus not counting as a reference to unfogged)?
"Arrrgh, I was Og'ed"
but then, you also don't even need the concept of proairesis as Aristotle develops it.
One (or Ogged) might still want to distinguish between wish and choice (and even between choice and appetite, while denying that appetite is the sort of thing that can cause action on its own).
Here, Joanna Newsom tells a cock joke, badly.
Witt made a cutting remark
Ben, Ben. A gentle slice was all. If I'd intended to cut, you'd have known it. You know I stay up on my knife skills.
an unusually heavy breakfast (roast leg of lamb; risotto with peas and green garlic)
What is it with unfogged and weird breakfasts? Scrambled eggs and cold pizza aren't good enough for you elitists?
Leftovers, spaz. Plus I broke my fast at noon.
I don't read Paper. Let's get that clear from the get-go. This was a one-time thing, an action in which, to be frank, I simply don't recognize myself. I've forgiven myself, and I hope each of you can find it in h/hself to do so as well.
I find no need to forgive the reading of Paper; it is the sheer pathetic asshattery of starting a blog post with such a paragraph that is unforgivable.
Sometimes the commenters are mean, Ben. It's because they're impotent.
(pause)
snorting giggle-fit!
(/pause)
Wasn't the pause ended by the giggle-fit itself?
Or is the giggle-fit contained in the pause? There will be a break now, for giggling?
The pause pertains to the thread, the giggle-fit pertains to the commenter.
It was the pause symbol followed by the play symbol, Ben, and for the latter I substitute an end pause.
14-24 and their referents and referrers fly in the face of current neuroscience research.
However I learned at dinner that I may only want to say this because of a naïve American faith in positivism.
Yglesias had the whole ephebophilia thing covered awhile ago.
14-26, the difference is 12 yrs, pretty compatible
so if you wait until she reaches adulthood like 4 more yrs, it's possible for you to ask her out
i like BW's pro-active attitude and wonder whether he got any responses to that simeon stylish profile
whether he got any responses to that simeon stylish profile
No, but someone in MA apparently registered just to look at it. (It's not just vanity that makes me think this.)
Wouldn't anyone who responded looking for a date be showing that she doubted Simeon's faith?
At the end of the story, Hadleyburg's motto is "Lead us into temptation".
Or would Simeon just say something like "I may be mystically married - but I'm not dead."
snorting giggle-fit!
A girl I knew at school used to snort when she laughed. It was very charming.
Apparently, the Momsens (Great-Great Grandpa Theodor must be spinning in the grave, eh?) are the latest Kate-n-Ashley gig. You were taken in, dear Ben. Don't flog yourself over it.
A simultaneous snort and giggle was not indicated, Populuxe. You know I don't do that.
Snorting is a wonderful release of tension and bad energy. Snorting therapy is becoming quite faddish in certain crowds in New York; many Hot Yoga teachers suffering from permanent dehydration have taken to leading snorting classes for the boat-show-and-bassinet set.
I use a bassinet to carry about my basset hound.
The pram-and-aged-parm scene, doncha know.
Man! Sorry, I thought there was some allusion to the honking laugh in there somewhere. No, don't do that.
I snort in the privacy of my own home.
I totally gave up snorting anything.
I take this opportunity to remind Becks that hotortwelve.com is still unregistered, as per our conversation at the Brickskellar or whatever it was called. There is an ill-reputed fortune to be made with that domain name.
56. That sounds like an excellent idea, and probably a good way to get yourself extraordinarily rendered somewhere.
But I'm told those places are sunny and warm and I'd be served lemon chicken. I'm not seeing a problem.
Any mention of risotto around my 15 month old causes the little one to begin demanding it. "Dodo!" "Dodo!" Banging on the highchair tray is what follows, along with some snorting. Which, as long as there is some risotto in the fridge, is actually really cool. I'm not sure the snorting is theraputic though. And of course, no risotto, no peace.
40: "Come again?" ... You first.
Hmm, I can't seem to bring myself to do that.
hotortwelve.com is still unregistered
However, I'm willing to transfer you the rights to hotandtwelve.com for the right price. Make me an offer.
Momsen also appears in Gus Van Sant's Paranoid Park as a self-obsessed cheerleader whose skater boyfriend accidentally murders a security guard.
I haven't seen the movie, but this can't be right.
Also every time I see the title of this post I get this stuck in my head. On balance, this is not a bad thing.
He either accidentally killed him or murdered him, he didn't accidentally murder him. Unless he was trying to murder someone else and murdered the security guard instead, maybe then he accidentally murdered him.
65: well so maybe he did, then.
He could have also accidentally killed him but then been convicted of a murder, an outcome the movie allows us to see through.
Roast leg of lamb and risotto for breakfast? Good lord, is he pregnant or something? What's a normal lunch, an entire steer?
66:
however, if the legal system can make something by definition a "murder" by convicting someone of murder, then by the definition of murder the legal system also makes it non-accidental.
68: right but given the parameters of a fictionally constructed universe, there could be a legally construed murder that we, the audience, understood was actually accidental.
What's a normal lunch
Three tablespoons of spirulina powder and Perrier.
there could be a legally construed murder that we, the audience, understood was actually accidental.
This expresses the same idea as: the character could have been found guilty of murder even though he did not commit murder.
71: which the plot summary expressed in convenient shorthand!
which the plot summary caption to a photo of a fourteen-year-old expressed in convenient shorthand!
The caption to the photo of the 14-year-old says the killing was both accidental and murder, 69 and 71 say that it was accidental, not murder, and that he was nevertheless found guilty of murder.
73: according to the standards of the law, it was murder. According to the standards of the just viewer, it was an accident, according to the stupid fan website that I've been inexplicably defending for most of the day now, it was both. Not so complicated!