Re: Pacing

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his sone was showing him taht he too could command an incomprehensible dialect

Oh Ben.

And the yonge sonne hath in the ram his halve cours yronne, and smale foweles maken melodye?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 11:40 AM
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I did that on purpose, to elicit sympathy from you.

Nothing can console me but talk of Alcibiades.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 11:42 AM
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Archipiades in Villon.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:03 PM
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For this man, Anytus, happened to be a lover of Alcibiades and, when hosting some guests to dinner, invited Alcibiades, too. He refused the invitation, but getting drunk at home with his friends, made a wild procession to Anytus' house. Standing at the door to the men's dining room and seeing the tables full of silver and gold cups, he told the slaves to take half of them back to his house; he did not think it worth going in himself, but went back home after this matter had been accomplished. When the guests were angry and said that Alcibiades had treated Anytus violently and contemptuously, Anytus replied, "No, he treated me fairly and humanely, for when it was possible for him to take everything, he left part for us."


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:05 PM
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oh yeah


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:11 PM
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Dictes moy ou, n'en quel pays
Est Flora la belle Rommaine
Archipiada ne Thaïs,
Qui fut sa cousine germaine
Echo parlant quant bruyt on maine
Dessus riviere ou sus estan
Qui beaulté ot trop plus qu'humaine?
Mais ou sont les neiges d'antan?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:19 PM
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He used to say on many occasions that it was preferable to give the favor of one's own youthful prime to another than to pluck it from others; for that harmed both body and soul. He denounced even Socrates, saying that if he had need of Alcibiades and held off, he was foolish; if he didn't have need, he did nothing exceptional . . . In censure of Alcibiades he said that as a youth Alcibiades drew husbands away from their wives, and as a young man he drew wives away from their husbands.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:20 PM
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this just what i needed


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:26 PM
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Wasn't Anytus one of Socrates' accusers? He did more than denounce, I think.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:29 PM
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Alcibiades quickly made Socrates his associate and listened to the words of a lover who did not hunt unmanly pleasure or ask for kisses and caresses, but examined the rottenness of his soul and restrained his empty and foolish vanity.

The proud fighting-cock cowered like a slave, with lowered wing.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:53 PM
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Hott!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 12:54 PM
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It's the rottenness of soul that's doin' it for you, Ben, isn't it?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 1:02 PM
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Nothing else.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 2:32 PM
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I more go in for foolish vanity.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 2:55 PM
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That is good, because it means we can both be satisfied.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 3:00 PM
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Comity! It's a match!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 3:03 PM
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The carriage held but just ourselves
And Alcibiades.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 3:08 PM
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Nicely done!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 3:15 PM
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I couldn't have done it but for your inspiration.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 3:19 PM
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Is this son a character in the book, even though I don't remember him or any mention of him in the movie?

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Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 3:21 PM
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The son has a brief walk-on in the book, yes. I am, after all, quoting from the book.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-11-08 3:30 PM
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