Re: Chickie Rules, Guy Drools

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At least you're staying classy, you wouldn't believe how immature some guys would get after they perceived they were shown up in a sport like that.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 4:41 PM
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Congratulations to both of you. In my experience, walking to the start line is the thing. After that, it's all gravy. [/sincerity]


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 4:45 PM
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Congratulations to Bpl!

(Oh, and to you too, Ogged).


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 4:46 PM
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great results, i hope to hear about the second meet too with posts on various other body parts getting shaved sequentially
for example how you shave your back like around the spine
with bpl though, it's no problem i imagine


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 4:50 PM
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Don't worry, you don't have to hear about that one.

Asshole.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:15 PM
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Warning:

Depending on how many Bay Area masters swimming events were held today, and how comprehensive their website is, you may have revealed your identity here by saying what your exact time was.


Posted by: Fatman | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:16 PM
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you may have revealed your identity here by saying what your exact time was

I would have, if I hadn't already thought of that, and fudged the number--but I appreciate the concern.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:20 PM
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Congrats to bpl, and I wouldn't mind hearing about future events.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:21 PM
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Congratulations to both of you.

Ditto on not minding hearing about future events, but of course that would put ogged at risk of our confirming that he'll be doing another meet soon because he likes being shaved. Shh.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:32 PM
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after they perceived they were shown up


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:33 PM
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Who's the master? Who's the master?

Congrats to both on doing well at not drowning.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:37 PM
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he'll be doing another meet soon because he likes being shaved

This isn't really about the swimming, is it? Also, I was under the impression that Masters is for old folks, and that bpl is young. Wrong again?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:41 PM
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min age masters swimming


Posted by: kth | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:42 PM
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oops, mt didn't like my less than sign; once again

min age masters swimming (less than) min age masters running


Posted by: kth | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 5:43 PM
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Yay, bpl! Good work, both!


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 6:13 PM
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bpl is "age appropriate", whatever that means.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 6:30 PM
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good work, bpl!

Ogged...try not to suck so much next time. You're embarrassing the blog.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 6:52 PM
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How old is Bass Playing Librarian? We need to know.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 7:56 PM
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Ogged's like 38? 1/2 + 7 = 26.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 8:13 PM
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Ogged is 35, but still keeps his spark of youth at home, in a jar with his kidney-beforelast.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 8:21 PM
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Ogged is middle-aged!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 8:22 PM
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Ogged is middle-aged!

Be that as it may, he could probably pull off that look that says "still youthful, but with a distinguished touch of gray"... if he didn't keep shaving off all his hair.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 8:43 PM
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a distinguished touch of gray

As we age, the happy trail becomes the trail of tears.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 8:47 PM
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As we age, the happy trail becomes the trail of tears.

That's about the truth, yeah. If her horny feet protrude, they come/To show how cold she is, and dumb.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 8:56 PM
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5 How does shaving that help?


Posted by: tkm | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:17 PM
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22: In other words, ogged's touch of grey may not be where you think it is.

Again, congratulations to them both.

Also, Ben, 35 is not middle-aged unless you expect to die at 70.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:22 PM
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26.last: Well, let us all ask Tim Russert about the life expectancy of the smug and self-satisfied.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:30 PM
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Also, Ben, 35 is not middle-aged unless you expect to die at 70.

Has "score" been redefined as something other than twenty?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:32 PM
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If we're talking about exercise, how about calories: scallops with garlic, rosemary and fresh morels (cheaper than you think - stuff's light) with a bit of creme fraiche and aged sherry vinegar cooked in butter with fleur de sel, and wilted greenmarket spinach with a touch of mascarpone for richness. Along with a nice Savennieres, soon to be followed by a chocolate mousse I made the other night - a bit of espresso really brings out the chocolate intensity without tasting of coffee.


Posted by: tkm | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:43 PM
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Has "score" been redefined as something other than twenty?

What? No. What?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:54 PM
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Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our years.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:57 PM
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Has "score" been redefined as something other than twenty?

Well, nowadays, with macrobiotic yogurt so readily available in the dairy case of one's local supermarket, anything less than five score and ten as a target goal of ideal longevity is pretty much slacking off, let's face it.

Of course 35 is middle-aged. And it's not exactly challenging the hegemony of the culture of youth to deny that basic fact of biology. The point is to say it's okay to no longer be young, not to assert, against all evidence to the contrary, that any age whatsoever should really be counted as young.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 9:58 PM
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how about calories: scallops with garlic, rosemary and fresh morels (cheaper than you think - stuff's light) with a bit of creme fraiche and aged sherry vinegar cooked in butter with fleur de sel, and wilted greenmarket spinach with a touch of mascarpone for richness

That sounds pretty good, but not as good as
pork belly with roasted shallots, pickled cherries & charred grapefruit; tuna tartare with radish, cucumber & fennel salad and peach-chili vinaigrette; grilled baby octopus; ricotta and mint ravioli with braised lamb and lemon zest; salt cod brandade with herb pasta, kalamata olives and cherry tomatoes; scallops with spring onions; tasmanian sea trout with cipollinis, pea shoots, and bacon vinaigrette; duck breast with kumquats, peaches, and toasted bulgur, and a chocolate torte.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:01 PM
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33 If you made that all for one meal you're insane. If you ate that at a restaurant - how much, and did it work?


Posted by: tkm | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:05 PM
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There was also a lamb special the details of which I can't remember.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:06 PM
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how much

$35.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:07 PM
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31: I see.

Of course 35 is middle-aged. And it's not exactly challenging the hegemony of the culture of youth to deny that basic fact of biology. The point is to say it's okay to no longer be young, not to assert, against all evidence to the contrary, that any age whatsoever should really be counted as young.

Okay. 35 is middle-aged. It should not be counted as young. Satisfied?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:08 PM
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Woops. 37.2 should have been in italics, quoting 32.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:10 PM
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$35?! clearly the Bay Area is a lot cheaper than NYC, even assuming that's the prix fixe minus tax and tip. Just the ingredients for my dish cost me about ten or twelve bucks, not including the wine.


Posted by: tkm | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:12 PM
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35 is middle-aged, a bargain, and a comment about a partly-forgotten lamb dish. A versatile number.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:16 PM
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39: I'm in the OC. I and my mother went to have dinner last night at the restaurant where my sister's the exec. chef. All the food and some of the wine was comped.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:19 PM
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late night food thread?

Anyone here ever encountered a creamy, gingery salad dressing at a Japanese restaurant? There was a place in baton rouge which had one, it was a pink color, and it was the greatest salad dressing ever made. The recipe, alas, was top secret; not even the servers could obtain it. Later, another restaurant successfully imitated it, with a much whiter version.

For years I've wanted the recipe, but nothing! I'm usually pretty good at re-creating stuff I find in restaurants, but this one has me stumped. So I'm tossing this out in case any of you foodies know what I'm talking about. The rest of the internet doesn't seem to, but I find it hard to believe that this dressing is confined to Baton Rouge.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:23 PM
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Meh. Seriously. MC thinks my remark about 35 not necessarily being considered middle-aged was some sort of denial; yes, it is, of sorts. "Middle-aged" tends, these days, to mean over-the-hill, or nearly so. That's what I deny.

Enough. The notion that one is past one's prime, over the hill, at 35, is absolutely absurd. This does not constitute a yearning toward youth understood as twenty-somethingness.

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Sorry. Ben, your exec. chef sister sounds wonderful.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:27 PM
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41 that's cheating


Posted by: tkm | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:28 PM
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Ben's familial relations involve carnal pleasure.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:29 PM
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I don't consider 35 middle aged. Not at all.


Posted by: NĂ¡pi | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:30 PM
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To the extent that "middle-aged" is a euphemism for "old, but not yet near retirement age," 35 is not middle aged.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:38 PM
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The notion that one is past one's prime, over the hill, at 35, is absolutely absurd.

Totally agree. Past one's prime at age 35 is just pathologically silly. I'm just objecting to the 'if you're older than 22 you might as well be dead' dynamic of our youth-oriented culture. I think it's better to acknowledge "middle age" and insist upon its claim to dignity, than to run in fear from callow youth, and, you know, pretend that 35 is the new 21 or whatever.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:40 PM
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42: I feel nothing but pity for those who have not tasted this dressing. Or rather the version that I've had. This may be but a pale simulacrum of what you are looking for, but I first had this dressing at a Benihana's many, many years ago. There seems to be many recipes on the internet for this dressing.


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:47 PM
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49 continued: You also get many results from ginger salad dressing.

Which makes me wonder — have you tried these already and found them wanting?


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:51 PM
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i've never been to a Benihana's; that recipe looks good, I think it's possible that the recipe I'm looking for may be based on that. Perhaps adding mayo and subtracting tomato paste.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:55 PM
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48: pretend that 35 is the new 21 or whatever.

Yes, we've already established that that's silly. I didn't think that was even on the table.

"Dignity" doesn't cut it nearly well enough, however, for what age 35 has to say for itself. Honestly.

That said, we all know that a lot of the way we judge these things has to do with the ability to breed, and 35 in women is looking toward the end of the breeding stage. Biological fact. I resist the notion that 35 is middle-aged by virtue of being close to non-breeder simply because I resist the suggestion that women's value is in their breeder status.

But I'm also really tired, and realize I'm introducing feminist-sounding stuff that's arguably unwarranted. Just being blunt at this point.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:57 PM
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50. Yeah, this stuff is not at all your normal "japanese ginger salad dressing". It's sweeter and creamier, and with a different kind of tang. Probably made with pickled ginger rather than fresh.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:57 PM
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53: I just assumed that you said "creamy" because you're getting forgetful in your old age.


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 10:59 PM
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"Middle-aged" has never struck me as a particularly useful concept.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:00 PM
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old?????

I blame teo.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:01 PM
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When I'm around everyone feels old.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:03 PM
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When I'm around everyone feels attractive.


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:12 PM
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One of the nice things about the current composition of my lab is that it's one place where I still get to feel young at 27. At lab meeting the other day I described someone as a "shortish blond kid," and everyone laughed at the idea of me calling someone a "kid."


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:13 PM
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52: "Well, everything looks good," the nurse said. Phew, that's a relief, thought I. "There's just one problem," she added. Oh, jesus God, what? what have I done, or failed to do? "You've gotten old" she chirped, and put me down on the chart as "elderly primigravadia." Elderly? I was 34 years old.

I know what you're saying, really I do.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:13 PM
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Sorry, that's elderly primigravida.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:19 PM
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60: Thanks.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:22 PM
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Middle-aged means fifty. I know, because as a literal-minded kid, it bothered me that it didn't mean 36.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:26 PM
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yeah. People talk about a mid-life crisis but part of it is realising that it's more like a three quarters life crisis.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:37 PM
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60: If Wikipedia is to be trusted,

An elderly primigravida is a woman in her first pregnancy, who is at least 35 years old.

she was off by a year. "Elderly" seems especially infelicitous applied to pregnancy, anyway.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:37 PM
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Middle-aged means fifty.

40s, anyway. Fifty will probably hit me ... with a smile.

Somewhat tangentially, a friend of mine who's just turned 47 has let me know recently that he and his girlfriend/partner are 4 months pregnant. Oh my. The energy, the energy! Full stop, really. His partner is younger, a bit, a bit and a bit.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:40 PM
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Part of the problem with "middle-aged" being defined as the mid-point of one's life, of course, is that people live for wildly varying amounts of time (and average life expectancy is of limited relevance to any given person), so the midpoint can only be determined in retrospect. Was Russert middle-aged at 29?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:45 PM
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Ogged's kidney was middle aged at 17.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 06-14-08 11:56 PM
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67: As it turns out, yes.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 06-15-08 12:04 AM
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40 is middle-aged. You people can't take that away from me.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-15-08 5:45 AM
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54 is middle-aged. You people can't take that away from me.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-15-08 7:36 AM
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Good news! There's finally a site dedicated to zit-popping videos!


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 06-15-08 8:03 AM
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Congrats, BPL and Ogged.

Middle-aged merely means round the midpoint of life. Elderly primigravida merely means "older, for a first pregnancy." Its not insulting.

Do you guys remember the unconscious bias tests where you could test how racist, sexist, ageist, etc., you were? I scored worst on ageist. And I do think that our sense that being called "old" is insulting is sort of akin to the idea that being told one "runs like a girl" is insulting.

So nyah.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-15-08 8:34 AM
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"Elderly" seems especially infelicitous applied to pregnancy, anyway.

AB's reluctantly acknowledged that being pregnant at 38/39 is a lot harder than at 34. No ability to compare with younger.

I believe that over-40 pregnancies are "geriatric." AB's is merely "advanced age," or some such.

B comments like an old woman.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 06-15-08 12:04 PM
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