I do not own an mp3 player. But! I could play this game if the people of Unfogged bought me one!
Song #21: Ligole Bips by Devin the Dude.
I don't have an ipod, but I used to know how to get Windows Media Player to shuffle play every song on my hard drive. The software has been "updated" though, and now I can't figure out what to do. I'd really like to play, though.
On song title alone, shuffle #1: Marx and Engels by Belle and Sebastian. Get that communist crap out of our schools.
On actual content/noise factor, the very next song: Boys Club by Ween.
And I just turned 35 this year. Son of a bitch.
I don't have an iPod either. I just hit Party Shuffle in iTunes. I was a little surprised I got all the way to 21 before hitting questionable content.
#34: "Time to Remember the Poor", Waterson:Carthy
39 in and the most objectionable thing is Lightning Bolt. I'll play later.
i gave up after looking ahead 40 and back 30...
i'm not scandalous enough.
#12, "Tim, I Wish You Were Born a Girl", by Of Montreal.
Song #2, "! (Foreword)" by Pain of Salvation. Lyric:
Your hate is but a worn-out lover, sick and sere
"Rape me again!" you beg in pain, dear friend
"But hey—just don't stop. The stillness makes me scared"
Ok, I'm trying itunes. I have to wait for it to recognize all my music files though. I hope it is only creating a list of them and not actually messing with the files.
Also, ligole bips is cool. I hadn't heard it before.
About 25 songs in, I guess "Bitch-Made-Nigga Killa" by MC Ren would qualify.
Does classical music count because it makes me look gay? If not, I think track 15 will do: Surah al-Nas.
About 20 or so in on iTunes (mostly my kids' music)—"I Heart Fags" MC Frontalot.
13: But also, often enough, religious, which increases your chances. It's a wash.
I might have hit it on track 8, but only if people could see the album cover. Nothing objectionable about the song itself.
Shuffling everything in Winamp gives me "Here's Your Future" by The Thermals on the first try. Woo-hoo!
Second song was French new wave:
"Contagion" by À Trois dans le WC
I figure that might do it, if not because it's weird French music, because someone will eventually translate the band name.
I'd go further in for something unquestionably objectionable, but my music is at home now and I'm at work.
Dude, you can't get elected president using Winamp.
356 Merle Haggard songs + 279 James Cotton
Innocence Mission gets me the Catholic vote
Michelle Shocked! Jobriath!
13th Floor Elevators & ZZ Top! T for Texas!
Velvet Underground = NY
Jimmy Buffett wins Florida
President by spontaneous acclamation! The crowd roars!
Utah Phillips, Rosalie Sorrels, Phil Ochs,Woody Guthrie,Hazel Dickens....ooops. Shot down like a dog in a basement bathroom by Wall Streeter John Corbett. And he looked so nice, despite the double stripes.
I don't have a shuffle, but I'm completely clean. I don't have mcuh obscure stuff. If you listen to the lyrics and think a little, Sly Stone is really out there, but he's a boomer classic. Same for Peter Tosh. "Downpressor Man" is pretty harsh, but after a certain number of frat parties it's harmless. Avant-garde jazz tends to be Afrocentric and left, but there are few lyrics except in Mingus. Again, boomers.
Do you have "hostile baby rocking song" by Rosalie Sorrels, McManus? I haven't been able to track that down.
"White Horse" was Top Forty. Anything that was popular is neutralized. David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Lou Reed too.
"It's just what people were playing when I was young. We didn't take it seriously".
First song that comes up: "Kerosene" by Big Black.
The next two are harmless, then "Ether" by Gang of Four.
Number five is from my own band, Klein Bottle, now defunct, "Taking Drugs as a Couple." I didn't even know that was on the hard drive.
I confess that I have Carla Bruni's "Quelqu'un m'a dit" on my Pod.
Dmitri Shostakovich's "Leningrad" Symphony might be considered suspicious as well.
#8, Beirut, "Un Dernier Verre (Pour la Route)". The combination of Middle Eastern city names with French is entirely damning. I probably windsurf, too.
Hmm. The 6th song was "Against the Grain," by Bad Religion, which is a perfectly harmless song, but I suppose the band name would be enough.
I was really hoping for "Entering Jesus from the Rear" by Feederz.
James Jordan's opera podcasts: "where opera is king, and you, the listeners, are queens."
Swimming upstream
I maintain against the grain
That's my kinda earworm, Oudemia. I've been walking around the last few days with the theme from "Caillou" stuck in my head. THis will make a nice change.
#2, Jean Claude Trans Am, by Fenix TX. Either endorses rape or has no respect for chastity, depending on your ideological bent.
It's actually Josh's, but I'd go down by association.
"Caillou" stuck in my head
Dude. And you haven't clawed out your eyes or anything?
Song #5: "Keep Your Laws/Off My Body" by the Dog Faced Hermans.
I got past 100 without anything that seemed like a disqualifier to me. I'm dull. I also now have the Caillou theme song stuck in my head thanks to Chopper (31).
Although I suppose song #4, "Da Mystery of Chessboxin'", might have done it, because everyone knows that the American people don't like eggheads.
7 songs in, Rufus Wainwright's "Agnus Dei" ought to do it. If not, how about three songs later, The Spice Girls, "2 Become 1"?
I'm just a kid who's 4
Each day I learn some more
I'm Caillou
Dude, so much better than Jay Jay the Jetplane or the new Flowertots.
40: How is it pronounced? Frenchified "cai-yoo" or "kay-loo" or?
38: how about three songs later, The Spice Girls, "2 Become 1"?
I don't think listening to crappy music automatically disqualifies you.
Nothing too damning lyrics-wise, but I guess I'm out on the snotty-classical-listening front and the french-lyrics front. First shuffle was Bartok's 5th string quartet, sixth was Né dans la rue by Zebda.
How about commenting in the right thread, Sifu?
42: If that's the case, all those songs on my gym mix totally disqualify me.
Goddamn motherfucking fucking asshole Supreme Court.
35: Do you actually mean you have Dog Faced Hermans on your iPod? Did you do some fancy thing with the vinyl? How? How? Or was that album for some reason available on CD? I live in fear that my treasured DFH records will somehow be injured or destroyed, leaving me DFH-less.
I have no iPod, but I was preparing a mix for a benefit last night and I'm pretty sure that Kid Creole and the Coconuts' "Annie I'm Not Your Daddy" would disqualify me. ("If I was in your blood, child you wouldn't be so ugly") I ended up not including that one because it's mean-spirited and despite being by an Actual Artist of Color plays with race in a manner that I think might be best reserved for gatherings of people I know fairly well. (But it's so danceable!)
I can't imagine that "Coup" (23 Skiddoo); "Get Behind the Struggle" (Radio 4; I think that's the title); "To Hell With Poverty" (Gang of Four); or even the original version of "99 Red Balloons" would help either. Or, for that matter, "Police Truck" and "Let's Lynch the Landlord" (which always makes me feel guilty since my actual landlords are rather good).
On the other hand, "We Live As We Dream, Alone" (GoF) might win me the conservative vote..."Man and woman need to work, it helps us define ourselves". I'm hoping that my green anarchist friends will be shocked and displeased when they hear it.
Well, I just redid it and got the Gainsbourg version of "Les Sucettes" in three goes, and that is one pervy song indeed.
The question with "Les Sucettes" is whether it disqualifies you for the content or for the language. What person who actually understands French is going to care?
Do you actually mean you have Dog Faced Hermans on your iPod? Did you do some fancy thing with the vinyl? How? How? Or was that album for some reason available on CD? I live in fear that my treasured DFH records will somehow be injured or destroyed, leaving me DFH-less.
I have in the past ripped songs from vinyl (my treasured copy of Baltimore band Pinky's "Coconut Creme" single, the best indiepop song ever about donuts), but Those Deep Buds was released on CD by Alt Tent. (TDB and Bump and Swing are available on eMusic, in fact.)
I'm sure high-quality rips off the vinyl were floating around Oink and are now available on waffles or whatever the kids are using.
Is no one going to freak out with me over this gun ruling?! Doom! Apocalypse! Bad stuff!
#7, Velvet Underground "The Black Angel Death Song". I think that gets around the popular Lou Reed exemption. Coulda been "Sister Ray" for that matter.
50: True! Good point. (My favoritest thing in the 2004 election was when a reporter told Teresa Heinz that some Republican jerk said her husband "looks French." TH scoffed and replied, "Hmph. I bet he doesn't even speak French." Oh, Teresa, I was so with you.)
Coulda been "Sister Ray" for that matter.
The American getting-a-hummer-from-a-trannie President the American getting-a-hummer-from-a-trannie people have been waiting for.
Seven songs in, "Fuck 'em all" by Tupac. That's right, bitch, vote for me!
Is no one going to freak out with me over this gun ruling?! Doom! Apocalypse! Bad stuff!
For shame, Kraaby. This is only the first step to ending anti-gun tyranny and preserving Our American Folkways. What about the authoritarian DC laws preventing Matt Yglesias from defending his home with tactical nuclear weapons?
47/52: care to articulate your concerns, Sir Kraab? I'm not freaking out, but maybe you'll convince me I should be.
YGLASYAS NEEDZ GRENAYDZ
Would "Debaser" count? It probably doesn't help to explain to Tim Russert that "it's about that movie where they show an eyeball being sliced by a razor blade."
It was #5, but I bet the next candidate will be pretty far in.
I was pretty sure that my entire iPod would pass Presidential vetting but then the fourth track on shuffle was a lecture entitled "Hearing Muslim Voices Since 9/11". Fuck.
"Ouch!" by Gas Huffer, another dozen or so in.
Completely expecting my partyshuffle to expose my utter lameness, imagine my surprise when the 3d and 8th songs turned out to be from Chumbawamba's album Never Mind the Ballots--an album iTunes had dutifully avoided for years.
So #3 Mr. Heseltine Meets His Public ("So we'll do away with leaders & bosses & police: reclaim our actions, rediscover our voices. Salvage our integrity, reassert our dignity--Power in the heart of the community!") and #8 The Candidates find Common Ground ("Full employment! Slave labour and schemes! An unemployed workforce--the capitalist's dream! But let's keep Britain working; either way we must keep Britain working!").
Hmm. First set of 6: "Fame", David Bowie; "Do Not Stand at My Grave", Libera; the second movement of Appalachian Spring, Aaron Copland; "Waiting for a Girl Like You", Foreigner (one of the GTA3 soundtrack albums, providing most of my '80s pop needs in one album); "電車", Serial Experiments Lain soundtrack; "Once", Blackfield. Australian progressive rock doesn't seem likely to provide an in-essentio ground for dismissal, and the anime album was a legit import.
Geez, I had to go through about four sets until I got "Crumbs From Your Table" by U2, which would get the Religious Reich all worked up. Ah, now the Seraphim Shock tracks show up. Those'd do it, too.
No shuffle. Glancing through my collection I don't have much that's offensive, but a variety of earnest leftish political music.
"Abiezer Coppe" by Leon Rosselson would probably do it.
There are several good Dick Gaughan songs, but the best ones are on cassette.
I have a variety of Gil Scott Heron. "The Revoltion Will Not Be Televised" or "Ain't No New Thing" wouldn't look good. By association there's also "My Revoltion" by Sarah Jones.
"Don't stop thinking about tomorrow"
"Born in the USA"
"Put a foot in your ass for the red, white, and blue..."
Wow, my campaign is practically writing itself.
66: s/b put a boot in your ass it's the american way?
I undressed you with my eyes i have
Maybe even raped you
CocoRosie, "Honey or Tar". Song #1.
Honestly, Senator, I don't even know the song! I just download a lot of crap on Azureus...oh.
Do you have "hostile baby rocking song" by Rosalie Sorrels, McManus? I haven't been able to track that down.
Sorry for the delay, took the dogs out.
I think the song is "Baby Rocking Medley " off of a compilation Learned by Livin, Sung By Heart
66: How about that one about the Sandinistas, the most boring song in the entire universe: "Now the people are learning to take back their lives/As the country will change [sic] Sandinista survives". You can tell that the Chumbas are anarchists from the lugubrious, dutiful way they sing that one. (I mean of course there's the whole irony/US-destroying-one-of-the-very-few-viable-socialist-governments-shortly-thereafter factor too). I really love both Never Mind the Ballots and Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records (one of my first vinyl purchases, double record from One Little Indian before OLI was bought by NMI.)
69: Oh right. I'm so American, that all the different ways to be American get confusing.
All you momzers have your iPods at hand or iTunes running at work, I see. I'll give my official answer tonight.
One of my tracks that could be misunderstood is Cab Calloway's "Go South, Young Man." ("Now East is East and West is West, but if you want to go weah dey loves you de best...")
(I have a Creative Zen dating from 2005. Hooray for obsolete knock-offs!)
Y'all really think that rapey songs and slicin' up eyeballs would disqualify you? Sandinista songs, sure.
I'd really like to learn the "make my comment justified" trick someday.
I also feel sure that anything by U2 is thoroughly stripped of all actual power to shock at this point.
Oh, and how about Oingo Boingo's "I Love Little Girls"? Is that too mainstream as well?
(And, no, of course it wouldn't disqualify anyone.)
I can't imagine Waterson:Carthy or Merle Haggard being disqualifying. The first arguable one on my Ipod was "Moma's Little Jewell" by Mott the Hoople, about 30 in.
#9 Tori Amos, "Icicle", #10 "Rape Me"
Or what about the Hackberry Ramblers "Jolie Blonde." I mean, it's in French! (song 38)
I used to feel rather smug about not having an iPod until I realized that all that meant was I was hopelessly anchored to my PC for way too many hours in a day.
Since I do not actually own the PC my choice of music is rather work safe.
At home I'd guess Jethro Tull's Aquaman is the grossest and Dr Hook's Sylvia's Mother is the most embarrassing.
I wonder what in my music collection would actually disqualify me for running for public office. Isn't there a God Is My Copilot song about gay sex with a priest? That'd be a good start, at least if I were running as a Democrat.
Alternately, maybe some Skrewdriver, though I don't have any from their extended period as the house band for the National Front.
I have some Kool Keith which would probably disqualify me.
Damn. 50 songs in and nothing disqualifying, unless I underestimate how much the American people would be offended by that Pixies track with the "You fuckin' die!" bit or the how much they hate vaguely intellectual yet more-or-less incomprehensible lyrics. My iPod seems to love the Beatles today.
At #21 I get "Flint (for the Unemployed and Underpaid)" by Sufjan Stevens; how do Michiganders feel about that? Not disqualifying, but would it cost me votes?
74: what is this "work" of which you speak?
Alternately, maybe some Skrewdriver, though I don't have any from their extended period as the house band for the National Front.
Yeah, see, now you're getting somewhere.
58: Because it further limits the state's power to regulate gun ownership and behavior. For instance, the Court said that not only can't D.C. ban handguns, it can't require trigger locks. Let's see what the accidental gun death rate looks like in 3 years.
It's either #4 (Dresden Dolls' "My Alcoholic Friends") or #12 (Frank Black covering "Sugar Daddy" from Hedwig and the Angry Inch). The Kylie would probably disqualify me on grounds of buggery but honestly it's just so innocuous; we queens love it because it's like a second helping of bubblegum pop for middle age.
At home I'd guess Jethro Tull's Aquaman is the grossest and Dr Hook's Sylvia's Mother is the most embarrassing.
Someone go back to 1978 and give Tripp a ride here.
For instance, the Court said that not only can't D.C. ban handguns, it can't require trigger locks.
Jesus Christ and his All-Singing, All-Dancing Hippopotamus Brigade. I haven't seen anything yet about what types regulations the decision allows or doesn't allow. Link?
I wonder what in my music collection would actually disqualify me for running for public office.
The first music I own of which I thought was Pansy Division. I just don't have any in my phone at the moment.
not only can't D.C. ban handguns, it can't require trigger locks. Let's see what the accidental gun death rate looks like in 3 years.
I wasn't entirely joking when I said Yglesias's roommates should start packing their bags.
Probably the single most disqualifying things in my music collection would be Fantastic Damage by El-P. Nihilistic, abrasive, crass, anti-family, and rap (by a hispanic dude, so still a minority!).
But that's an interesting question. Would the explicit ultra-left-wing politics of The Coup make them more incriminating despite their more conventional music backing and lack of misogyny? What about the Rapeman album? Is angry, brutally and deliberately offensive noise rock by a bunch of suburban white guys "worse" than less blatently disturbing but more political music by black people?
These are the issues of our times, people. These are the questions that stir men's souls.
91: Doesn't "accidental gun death rate" imply that most of the people being killed would be gun owners or those close to them? It's not clear to me that this is a big problem: either the rate stabilizes or gun owners accident themselves out of existence.
Shorter Tim: If your dad owns a gun, you deserve to die.
Kobe wouldn't shoot you by accident.
Would the explicit ultra-left-wing politics of The Coup make them more incriminating despite their more conventional music backing and lack of misogyny?
Yes.
Is angry, brutally and deliberately offensive noise rock by a bunch of suburban white guys "worse" than less blatently disturbing but more political music by black people?
Nope!
Scotus is giving some of the highlights. I'm going to read the NYT & WP next.
97: Conventional wisdom suggests that nothing is more disqualifying than angry black men. Nothing except maybe a chick masturbating during Bible study, which is why I'm out.
Ooh I have angry, political rap and "Christianity Is Stupid" by Negativland around someplace. I'm cooked.
The Coup could be genuinely disqualifying: ultra-left-wing hip-hop, generally unknown to the general public, and thus not bleached of their power to alarm. And if anyone in the general public has heard of them, it would be for the fact that they had to delay releasing their 2001 album because the cover was going to feature a picture of the World Trade Center exploding.
Someone go back to 1978 and give Tripp a ride here.
Eh? What's that sonny?
The sad truth is we *are* in 1973 with only the music changed. And it has gotten worse! Now get those kids off my lawn! Rotten kids.
BURNING MAN HAS SUCKED SINCE IT LEFT THE BEACH
The decision isn't Armageddon by any means:
The ruling does not mean, for instance, that laws against carrying concealed weapons are to be swept aside. Furthermore, Justice Scalia wrote, "The court's opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."
But it does give me another reason to kick the ass of the next Nader voter I meet.
Oh, I also have "Tourrorists" by Porest! Any album with this cover just has to be a disqualifier.
Did you really need another reason, Sir Kraab?
101, 105: Oh snap, now rfts is depressing me. But The Coup are a burning goddamn funk band live! And when everyone gets their booty shaking at the shows, it's a beautiful thing!
Why can't America like beauty?
97.2: "Is it Congressman Polymath's position that landlords should be killed or that Captain Sterling should be fragged? Why does Congressman Polymath hate the military-industrial-landlord complex?" No question. Angry black Marxists might even trump Sybil deuteronomizing herself.
Shorter Tim: If your dad owns a gun, you deserve to die.
That's unfair. If your dad owns a gun, it's probably better for the country if you die before you can vote and you dad goes to prison for killing you and can no longer vote.
91: Doesn't "accidental gun death rate" imply that most of the people being killed would be gun owners or those close to them? It's not clear to me that this is a big problem: either the rate stabilizes or gun owners accident themselves out of existence.
I think that the same concept animated the repeal of PA's motorcycle helmet law. Shockingly, this resulted in a massive increase in head injuries and deaths:
Researchers from several of Pitt's Schools of Health Sciences examined discharge data from all acute care hospitals in the state for the two years preceding and the two years following repeal. They found a 32 percent increase in head injury deaths, and a 42 percent increase in head injury hospitalizations. The non-head-injury death rate did not change. [...] Total acute care hospital charges stemming from motorcycle-related head injuries rose 132 percent.Of course, kids still have to wear motorcycle helmets, plus most cyclists ride solo. Little Johnny won't accidentally go ride Dad's cycle out on the highway without a helmet and get smeared.
Anyway, I'd be perfectly happy not to have a gun control discussion except in a dedicated thread. Instead, let's make fun of Tripp for not knowing the title "Aqualung."
On preview, I don't know what 114 is about, but I like it.
People overestimate the risks. Unless you've done some of target shooting, it's hard to blow away your best friend from across the room in a drunken rage. Usually you just hit the wall. You can't shoot straight. and you're drunk into the bargain. Some say you get better results by aiming at the wall right over your best friend's head, because you'll miss that too, so you might have a chance of bagging the guy.
Or her, laydeez! Girls can be best friends too!
Usually you just hittravel through the wall and hit some kid across the street.
laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildingsScalia's such a coward. Have the courage of your convictions, you fuck! Assault rifles for all visitors to the Supreme Court Building.
Oh snap, now rfts is depressing me. But The Coup are a burning goddamn funk band live! And when everyone gets their booty shaking at the shows, it's a beautiful thing!
Why can't America like beauty?
True. Very sad. I love the Coup.
112: I refuse to be smeared by this witchhunt, especially when my interlocutor neglects the later intelligence findings of "Bush and Saddam... together in bed, giving H-E-A-D head". Which I assume is a codeword for illicitly exchanging nuclear secrets.
Instead, let's make fun of Tripp for not knowing the title "Aqualung."
Yes, please. I live simply to serve. You will find many such Easter eggs in my comments if you look closely enough.
hit some kid across the street.
Little shit deserved it, I tell you.
There was an awful-sounding altercation on my street a couple weeks back (between unarmed brothers, as it turned out), and I did think, "Glad I've got solid brick walls."
How does 118 not have a line break between the comment and the sig line?
I guess there's no point in asking during the hiati.
Unless you've done some of target shooting, it's hard to blow away your best friend from across the room in a drunken rage.
True, but I find using a sawed off shotgun increases the chances a bit. Plus you'll probably not kill the kid in the next room.
I mean if that is your thing. Party on Shriners!
Unless you've done some of target shooting, it's hard to blow away your best friend from across the room in a drunken rage.
Anything worth doing involves lots and lots of practice, Emerson.
124 makes me glad that my 115.penultimate has been ignored.
Gunownership is far overestimated as a cause of crime problems. In a lot of the West, even including Wobegon, gun-ownership is over 50% without serious problems coming with that.
A friend of my sisters for NJ was flabbergasted to walk into the local outdoor stoor and see a dozen guns lying out for sale, loose and unchained.
Oh, gods, how could I forget the Negativland? I'm hosed.
124, 121
It's cool J, it's cool.
I love the Coup.
I enthusiastically second this.
see a dozen guns lying out for sale, loose and unchained.
So can you buy them loose, or do you have to buy the bundle?
127:
Well Geez John. I don't mind people shooting off bottle rockets on their farms either but when the stupid kid behind me shot a bottle rocket that landed on my roof near the cedar siding I threatened to call the cops if he did it again.
So, like, population density might have a little something to do with what is allowed, don't you think?
127: I'll bear that in mind when a kid shoots up Wobegon High.
They had a hostage standoff 30 miles away from Wobegon a couple days ago. In the TV coverage, two of the SWAT team members were women. The hostage-taker was blown away by three snipers, and for all I know one or more of them were women. See, laydeez, we're liberated here in Wobegon.
The town was Little Falls, Charles Lindbergh's home town.
Little Known Fact: Minnesota east of the Mississippi was part of the original territory of the US, in the Northwest Territory.
There was a kid that shot out the windows of the school principle's house way back when, but no big deal. He was spoken to.
It's another Fact Noone Cares About, brought to you by Emerson.
135: Was he aiming for the window? Maybe he just missed his best friend.
Have you met my friend Noone? She cares about all kinds of things.
Sir Kraab has a constricted mind and little curiosity, like the vast run of humanity. I've learned not to let it bother me.
John,
Spill the beans - there was that school shooting on the reservation. Also the latest 'hostage' situation was a nutcase porn shop owner in a courthouse and lasted maybe two minutes.
But I hope you are not claiming that a school shooting couldn't happen here in a good white school. We are not immune.
Heck, years ago a good Catholic teen rebelled against his parent's tough love and killed his own family while they were sleeping, including younger siblings, with an axe. That was in Rochester.
In Oregon best friends play a game involving seeing how close they can shoot to one another without hitting anyone. If your best friend hits you, he loses.
Nothing except maybe a chick masturbating during Bible study, which is why I'm out.
It was ok until they learned that young pre-Dr. Vane wasn't even thinking about a red-blooded American male.
139: It's true. I'm a philistine.
Eh, I believe that most gun laws are a foolish waste of time. Spend the time and effort on better mental health care and screening. Lets have fewer men coming back from battle with PTSD.
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
Come on people now
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now
You gotta love one another
141: There's a more skillful version of that played all over, with knives.
143:
we know that by the checkered scarf that you wear.
Minnesota has a pretty low murder rate and crime rate. North Dakota has about the lowest in the country. Gun ownership is very high in both states. There are just a lot of other variables.
I support gun control in the sense that, if a jurisdiction has a crime problem and believes that it would be helpful to restrict gun use, they should be able to do it. But people speak as though gun ownership in itself is a cause of crime, and it really isn't.
My problem with guns isn't that they always mean more crime. It's that they always mean more death.
Oh, and maiming. Let's not forget about the maiming.
There was a kid that shot out the windows of the school principle's house way back when, but no big deal. He was spoken to.
Well, yeah, but the principle's (sic) kids always get special treatment. When someone starts shooting *into* the windows then we can talk.
Sir Kraab: objectively anti-death. No use looking to her for support for the Logan's Run Act.
If simply "too left-wing for David Broder" counts, I'm out at #17, "Wake Me Up When September Ends." If a frightening-sounding title and touchy subject is enough, "One More Murder" by Better Than Ezra was #37. The first really unambiguous one I found was #41: "Adrenaline," by the Phunk Junkeez.
If something really embarrassing would be enough to count as automatically disqualifying, I passed an Abba tune in the low teens.
All you momzers have your iPods at hand or iTunes running at work, I see. I'll give my official answer tonight.
I can't speak for everyone else, but personally, I didn't have the earphones in my ears, I just read the names of the songs off the screen.
But I do call my playlist of workout songs "Run Logan Run"!
No, Wobegon folk, guns and all, are the healthiest American demographic, except for Asian-Americans. Google "The Eight Americas".
Lots of things mean more death and maiming, Kraab. You have to measure costs against benefits.
The town was Little Falls, Charles Lindbergh's home town.
My only mental association for Little Falls is this song
You have to measure costs against benefits.
She did. But JE is right, there is something fucked up about US and guns, but it isn't as simple as ownership statistics. Canada does much better that way. Otoh, given that it's known to be a problem, having legislative constraints doesn't seem crazy.
Yes, Brock, I know. That's why I also support a ban on those Japanese restaurants where the cooks cook at your table and throw knives around. I'm heartsick every time I hear about another sliced ear or deep knee wound.
Lots of things mean more death and maiming, Kraab.
Like, say, automobiles.
151: SCMT, aren't you approaching 35? Or over?
Also, I gotta admit that I'm with Sir Kraab on this. Guns are probably the single issue where I have the most hardcore DFH views, since I really see virtually no benefit to them relative to the numerous problems of accidental harm. I would definitely support restricting guns to hunting rifles and shotguns alone.
there is something fucked up about US and guns
Yes, deeply. The wingers who festoon their websites with pictures of their guns like they were Playboy centerfolds are Exhibit A. Freud would have a field day.
Like, say, automobiles.
Or the Anal Intruder with fist attachment.
SCMT, aren't you approaching 35? Or over?
I'll tell you after we see what happens with the legislation.
My #1 song came up as Billy Bragg's Fourteenth of February. A love song on the one hand, but by an Avowed Socialist on the other.
Second try, Bragg didn't come up until #6, but he was followed immediately by The Klezmatics "Rise Up!" An Avowed Socialist and Uppity Jews? I think my goose is cooked.
I'd support a ban on automobiles before I'd support a ban on handguns. The former do a hell of a lot more harm.
I'd support a ban on automobiles before I'd support a ban on handguns. The former do a hell of a lot more harm.
I think you're missing the point of "cost/benefit" there, dude.
The former do a hell of a lot more harm.
A hell of a lot more good too. In ratio, their vastly ahead.
Regardless, it's not like either are in question for banning. What SK was talking about, afaics, is more like supporting seat belt laws and speed limits, or not.
Oh, and here comes "I Blew Up the United States". Thanks, Was(not)Was, for ruining a promising political career.
"their" another one wasted on bens hiatus
What SK was talking about, afaics, is more like supporting seat belt laws and speed limits, or not.
And that's of course still allowed and perfectly okay. The court's decision really only went to near-total bans.
It's not clear to me that autombiles do vastly more good than guns. Of course, I'm out of the norm in thinking that many of their purported benefits are properly categorized as harms.
What about a ban on grass lawns? Not a lot of death and maiming, admittedly, but they definitely do real harm. For relatively little benefit.
It's not clear to me that autombiles do vastly more good than guns.
But that's because you're insane.
I am among the people here who would actively work for really tight restriction on car ownership, if it were at all politically feasible. Instead I just settle for fighting the things we do to subsidize car ownership.
I really do think part of the problem is that some of you may be overlooking the benefits of gun ownership.
The benefit of guns is the subjective benefit of any voluntary recreational activity. It doesn't have to be economically productive or necessary for life.
In most of the areas where I've lived, the gun costs / benefits is comparable to the dangers from motorcycles, OTR vehicles, alcohol and recreational drugs, speedboats, rock climbing, hang-gliding.
I'm willing to speculate that an urban/rural divide may exist on this issue.
I just played the game again and got a Death Cab for Cutie song at #3. Can presidents be emo? I bet "Silent Cal" was wicked emo.
Hey, the guys at 174 will take your comments at submitions@trtnational.com
sweet.
171.3: Grass lawns are in no danger of killing anyone, which is pretty close to what I'd require to consider bans reasonable. However, I'd certainly say the damage they do suggests that policies and pricing to discourage grass lawns in places where they can't sustainably grow on their own would be in order... But you already knew that.
175.2: That would be true, if guns were incredibly unlikely to harm anyone but the owner.
Being out of an unhappy marriage prevents lots of maiming and death.
Stanley's craggy facial hair disqualifies him.
180: Also true, I support a system of means-tested divorce subsidies for couples of all sexual orientations, like any good liberal.
since we seem to be on the subject of SCOTUS, what do people think of the 5-4 decision against the `millionaires amendment' on campaing finance?
176: Dependence on cars is will turn the rural area I'm staying in right now into a near ghost town in five years. The rich second-home types and the college students will be able to pay for the amount of driving required. Everyone else is going to have to move to a higher density area.
My answer varies greatly depending on whether we're considering the song's content in isolation, or contextual stuff in addition.
#1 is fine.
#2 finishes me if the album name is considered (Coil, "Aqua Regis", off Scatology), but it's an instrumental.
#3 finishes me if the band name is considered (Rapeman, "Just Got Paid", Two Nuns and a Pack Mule), but it's a fairly inoffensive ZZ Top cover.
We're up to #20 before My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult offers "Get Funky With Me" off of Gay, Black, and Married.
#37 seals the deal with Pigface's "Suck", though. ("I'll heal your wounds/I'll set you free/I'm Jesus Christ on ecstasy/how does it feel?/suck suck suck/how does it feel/suck suck suck")
183: my uninformed opinion is that I'm opposed. But campaign finance is such a mess either way that I can't make myself care about it very much.
And if that wasn't enough, #38 brings it all together: Revolting Cocks, "Pole Grinder", Cocked and Loaded.
I support tight restrictions on car-mounted machine guns.
Nah, not really. Go for it, says I.
Crass - Reality Asylum (from The Feeding of the 5000)
Disqualified from everything forever.
I use it, but itunes is pissing me off more and more lately. Tom Waits, "Pasties and a G-String" came up in the first 10 or so, but I doubt that Tom Waits could possibly disqualify me, even with the song title. Eventually I got to a song by Chingo Bling off "4 President", which album would surely do so considered in its entirety. Mentally, the songs I thought of that would disqualify me were The Frogs, "Raped", and Ween, "Mr. Richard Smoker".
Also, Norbizness, how are you just 35? We had a conversation (about a murderer classmate, J0hn Dr3w) a few years ago in which we determined we went to high school together, but I thought you graduated in 89. Were you 16?
4: Chocolate Jesus (Tom Waits)
mmmm, chocolate.
8 Shuffles, "Jewish Princess" by Frank Zappa
and then...
#12, "Crack Whore Blues" by The Neckbones
#22, "God Hates Us All" by Slayer
#35, "New Faith" by Slayer
I like slayer.
Slayer fans are normally Republicans, I think.
I don't have an appropriate device to shuffle, nor is most of my music collection ripped, but I got a feeling that the most disqualifying songs would come off of Anal Cunt's album 40 More Reasons to Hate Us.
Although "Dead Skin Mask" by Slayer comes close.
I'd certainly say the damage they do suggests that policies and pricing to discourage grass lawns in places where they can't sustainably grow on their own would be in order... But you already knew that.
I certainly didn't know that, but it's good to know there's another lawn-hater here. Woo, Po-Mo! Down with the grass!*
* Not you, apo.**
** Or Sifu***
*** &c.
7 - "The 'Down to Seeds and Stems Again' Blues"
"Fuck the Police," NWA
"The Hurdy Gurdy Man," Butthole Surfers
You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand!
"Fuck the Police," NWA
"The Hurdy Gurdy Man," Butthole Surfers
You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand!
Real Muthphuckin' G's, Eaxy-E (R.I.P.!)
2 shuffles.
