I have never relayed my best friend's horrifying high school dream... of a beautiful topless woman lactating cottage cheese and yogurt and whatnot. Guess I have, now!
I couldn't have been more than four or five years old, but I remember seeing the Batman show where Robin is being eaten by the giant clam, and it giving me, um, funny feelings that I didn't quite understand.
Interesting he said "anaconda"; maybe the real meaning is that he wonders of the whole world is Sir Mix-a-lot's dick?
So close, teo. It's actually "vulvore".
I bow to your superior knowledge.
Then he found his keys and drove out.
In Scientology, giant clams inhabit your brain.
Your brain, Apo.
Think about that -- if your thetan lets you.
Surely, this is ripe for dream analysis and Freudian interpretations. Have at it.
Eight years of plenitude followed by eight years of hardship!
Bar Guy and the Amazing Bearded Rainbow Dreamcoat.
I'll think about it, John. Meanwhile, this is for you.
That sounds like that scene in the Pedro Almodóvar movie. I can't remember the title and I'm too sleepy to track it down. I'm sure Apo can find the relevant clip. Both eerie and oddly erotic.
Playing the giant clam (2nd picture down).
17: I don't think so. It was a a weird black-and-white dream sequence involving a tiny (shrinking?) man.
Eh, I'm way too tired to think. Off to bed.
18: No, that was definitely Talk to Her.
18, 19: Yes, that's Talk to Her. Or, if you prefer, Hable con ella.
Benigno relates his dream to Marco wherein he shrinks and then jumps into Alicia's vagina. And then Alicia gets pregnant.
I'm looking for the video, but it's proving hard to fine.
21: Not the whole scene but at 3:55 of this trailer there looks to be part of it, probably just before the plunge of which Witt speaks.
More research indicates that the sequence was a film Benigno sees called "Shrinking Love".
That's enough of this.
is it just me, or did Almodovar lift the plot of Talk to Her from Brimstone and Treacle?
also, anybuddy here see "Teeth?"
also, also, please to not be with the Freudian dream analysis.
Oh yeah, meetup. This coming weekend would be good for me.
Fisting sort of does feel like getting your hand swallowed by an anaconda. Pretty wild. TMI, I know.
27: Have you experienced both?
You would think if a president had had his hand swallowed by an anaconda, it would have made the news.
29-30: you're right, of course. I cannot swear to actual anaconda-sensations, but I feel some kinship with the bartender's analogy.
33: On YouTube here. Giant Clam starts about 5:30.
"Walk out of here? Buddy, help me find my keys and we can drive out of here."
You never heard that one?
In Soviet Russia, pussy eats you!
I think it also happened early in Neil Gaiman's American Gods, before I got distracted and stopped reading.
Copycat "Into the Wild" pilgrimages are on the upswing. How long before someone sets up a little gift shop out there, selling "I made it to the Magic Bus" T-shirts and little toy versions of the bus itself (if there isn't such a thing already)?
#34: Everybody talks about how awesome Heath Ledger's Joker is going to be, but that's only because they've forgotten about Cesar Romero.
It's actually "vulvore"
Like the Gypsy Kings song?
** Obvs. this guy feels he is giving his gf everything he has but he's afraid it's not enough and that staying with her is going to consume his life.
We all have this dream, but it's a violation of man-law to actually talk about it. This guy will be getting a visit.
14: I appreciate the effort, but to real men, salmon are not sexually exciting the way carp are. The Japanese are severely conflicted in may ways. I liken salmon-fetishism to the ephebophilia of guys who are frightened by the real thing.
Keep me in the loop if there are Teo-related meetup activities this weekend!
And now we come to the heart of Emerson's relationship philosophy: a guy who'd find a carp more sexually exciting than a salmon on a run, or than a trout any time (and I think this can be inferred) is truly beyond redemption.
They're jumping water falls to have sex!
Carp are not cute little boutique anime fish tenderly cared for by pisciculturalists until they're ready to be caught by "sportsmen". Carp are a tough, brawny fish that can kill people, an unstoppable fish that takes over whole ecosystems. Of course, that's too much for our metrosexual swipple community.
Arning: I may switch my loyalty to the Mekong catfish, which seems capable of handling Karl Rove.
If only my old friend Charlie were here to defend the noble carp!
Carp are the leathermen of the piscine scene.
No, no, apostropher. Carp are very feminine, in a hitherto-unimagined third-millenium way.
Salmon have been edited to appear unnaturally pink because the market is a tool of the pisciarchy.
Note that there's plenty of room for a Rove in there.
But yes, if I were swipple and metrosexual, I'd go for those adorable little farmed trout.
47: Carp feminine? Huh? Are you ignoring the scraggly facial hair? Ew.
If one wants to be offensive one could claim the carp to be Ming the Merciless, but feminine?
I don't see it.
Now walleyes I could see as feminine. Much sought after. Highly prized. Caught with a lure or bait. Mild flavor.
Well, since no one else is saying it, I've been very impressed with your carp pics, Emerson. They are truly awe-inspiring.
Tripp, you're a well-known sexist with no appreciation of the womyn of the future. You have n frame of reference here.
55: They are truly awe-inspiring.
Particularly the one that is a catfish.
Some guy posted a better video the other day. Perhaps Wlat Soeguy.
John,
Tripp, you're a well-known sexist with no appreciation of the womyn of the future. You have no frame of reference here.
I think you meant a future sexist. Other than that though based on my lack of desire for carp I think you have pegged me.
Carp, catfish, bullheads. Ew. The worst part is they swallow the hook every time and it is the devil to get it out without cutting your line. I've been stung by bullheads more times than I care to admit. Yuck.
OT: Sy Hersh on US black ops in Iran:
Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country's religious leadership. ...
Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in the President's war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran ... have now been significantly expanded...
The Democratic leadership's agreement to commit hundreds of millions of dollars for more secret operations in Iran was remarkable, given the general concerns of officials like Gates, Fallon, and many others. ...
The potential for escalation became clear in early January, when five Iranian patrol boats, believed to be under the command of the Revolutionary Guard, made a series of aggressive moves toward three Navy warships sailing through the Strait of Hormuz. ... a lesson was learned in the incident: The public had supported the idea of retaliation, and was even asking why the U.S. didn't do more. The former official said that, a few weeks later, a meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. "The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington," he said.
I've been expecting this since two years ago.
The Democrats seem unprepared, and unwilling to resist. This is McCain's ace in a hole. Chaos seems to work for the Republicans. I didn't understand why the war wasn't started for the 2006 election; possibly Cheney, Rove and Bush were confident thata Democratic Congress could be neutralized. Rightly so, pretty much.
Even if Obama's elected, Bush's "facts on the ground" (a hot war being fought) will tie Obama's hands in foreign policy.
This might be shrill, but I think we're now officially at "if you could travel back in time and shoot Hitler" territory with Bush and Cheney.
The Administration isn't afraid of subsequent chaos following a US pullout of Iraq, but of the opposite. The Basra fight a few months ago between Sadr and the national army (plus US army, of course) was largely mediated by the Iranians.
Knowing that Iran's would be a much more peaceful influence than than that of the US, the Administration see its only solution to be permanent bases...plus bombing the Iranians. In this context, such a bombing is not just an option, but a requirement.
There's a lot to asl's view in 65. Our policy has not proceeded as if creating regional stability is the goal. If anything, we seem to aim for U.S. regional hegemony even at the cost of regional stability.
I'm not basing this on polls or anything, but I think that a US attack on iran would galvanize the country in ways not favorable to the Republicans. Maybe there's a tiny window in which people would rally around the flag, but after that we're on the same road Russia took in 1917.
If anything, we seem to aim for U.S. regional hegemony even at the cost of regional stability.
I worry that Emerson's statement is closer to being correct. Regional instability is not a bug, it's a feature. Per Emerson:
Chaos seems to work for the Republicans.
Pretty much everyone agrees that Bush pere was a better leader than Bush fils, but HW made the political mistake of winning his war.
Just my opinion but I don't see us attacking Iran.
Our military is broken, our populace is broke, and I think enough people are aware of the war/misdirection tactic now so it would not work too well.
[1}Our military is broken, [2}our populace is broke, and [3]I think enough people are aware of the war/misdirection tactic now so it would not work too well.
1. The Air Force isn't. Anyway, when did they ever care about that kind of thing?
2. Finance it!
3. That's crazy talk!
Let me know about teo-related meetups. I'm busy on the 4th itself, but the rest of the weekend should be fine. I'm planning to be hung over Saturday morning, though.
Sy Hersh was also on "Fresh Air" today, mostly recapping the article stras linked to. The man's got a pretty damn good track record when it comes to stories, but Jesus Christ does he sound like a conspiracy nut in person.
Conspiracy theories are reasonable during the Cheney administration.
Hersh will be glad to be wrong, and so will I. If there's no Iran War before Jan 20 I'll buy everyone a cyber-beer.
He gave a public lecture in Merganserville recently. I thought of his style as more "your slightly crazy uncle", because he talked in a stream-of-consciousness style and mostly made his points with stories (I talked to a General friend of mine...which reminds me of the mother of a soldier who was in Abu Ghraib...etc.). The common theme was We're Fucked, but beyond that there was no structure.
The audience was about 75% male and the comments were about 95% from men. The last guy was a 9-11 Truther, in dialogue with whom Hersh was pretty funny.
Conspiracy theories are reasonable during the Cheney administration.
I remark on the style of his presentation, and you respond with a comment about the substance.
Merganser gets it right, anyway.
I ♥ the dude's dream for some reason. It's so ridiculous that I love it. As I read the post here at work I had to cup a hand over my mouth and shake with silent laughter.
The other night I dreamt of talking to someone about dreams. For some reason meta-dreaming was very taxing to me.
So I finally find the Unfogged converstion about the Hersh article and that's all there is? I miss ogged.
Yeah, without Ogged around, it's easy to forget how richly Iran deserves bombing.
I can't fill the void in political blogging. All I'm good for is anecdotes and you-tube and some feminist reflecting.
81: You're pretty good at the musicianizing too.
Have I musicianized over here? Or you mean the Boswell sisters? (I do have a my-own-musicianizing post that I was thinking about, but I'm somewhat shy about that stuff and so I'm still sitting on it.)
You're good at free-association whimsy too.
I'm good at free-associating whimsy too! You're good at Lake Woebegonning.
I didn't say that uit right. What I meant was: People who are teasing Heebie should FUCK OFF AND DIE because she's very sensitive and fragile. She's a perfectly wonderful front-page poster.
See, I'm a patriarchal gentleman of the first water.
I'm not sure heebie can be forgiven for the crime of murdering every single political blogger, evar, on her way to the top.
I didn't mean literally FUCK OFF AND DIE. I really just meant "chill".
I bored them to death with my anecdotes! LETHAL!
If only they were silent but deadly, heebie.
And you flinched. Two for flinching.
What I meant was: People who are teasing Heebie should FUCK OFF AND DIE because she's very sensitive and fragile. She's a perfectly wonderful front-page poster.
See, I'm a patriarchal gentleman of the first water.
Patriarchal - yes. Gentleman - no. What you said was patronizing and rude. But I think you know it and are trying to be evocative in your own way.
(Taking this back to the topic of fishing) I think we have a difference in approach. You seem to prefer the Red-eyed wiggler, luring by provoking an aggressive response. I prefer the minnow, luring by evoking desire.
The very concept of gentleman is patriarchal, as has been explained many times.
The very concept of gentleman is patriarchal, as has been explained many times.
I didn't dispute that. I pointed out that you portrayed the former while claiming it made you the latter.
"Gentleman" is a subset of "patriarchal." You seem to be portraying a patriarchal cad or boor in an effort to - what - show that patriarchal is OK? I'm not really sure what your point is. You seem confused. Do you have difficulty relating to women?
You see, in my opinion the concept of "respect" is central to being a gentleman and it is very compatible with both feminism and patriarchy. In my opinion a gentleman discards the patronizing aspects of a patriarch and emphasizes the mutual-respect aspects.
Many men seem confused about this and think, somehow, that feminism requires them to discard *all* of their masculinity. I don't see it that way.
Many men seem confused about this and think, somehow, that feminism requires them to discard *all* of their masculinity.
You know people like this? Really? I mean, it's a pretty standard trope trotted out by asshats of various stripes, but I didn't thing actual people were ignorant/confused enough to believe this. I've never met one who came by this position honestly, at least.
Many men seem confused about this and think, somehow, that feminism requires them to discard *all* of their masculinity.
Yes. I, like other feminist men, discarded all my masculinity by having my penis and testicles removed.
I always knew I was a shitty feminist.
Yes. I, like other feminist men
Whatever trips your trigger I guess. I like feminist women.
100: You know people like this? Really?
I dunno if they actually *believe* it or not but in my experience many blue-collar men will dispute my claim of respect for women by saying something like "So why don't you prance around in a dress, fairy?"
Well, they wouldn't say "prance" because then they would sound like a fairy, but you know what I mean. In my experience the idea that granting a woman strength makes me weak is pretty common. My own parents have hinted that I need to "lay down the law (threaten physical violence) with my wife."
My brother, who is killing himself with alcohol and has taken many blue collar jobs views himself as more masculine than I am. My parents agree.
103: Well, like I said, it's a very common trope. I just think that pretty much everyone who trots it out knows that it's dishonest, but isn't interested in being honest about it. It's the sort of argument that doesn't hold any water at all, but it isn't supposed to --- it's just group signaling most of the time.
Of course some of it just boils down to: I don't like feminists because I like the unjust advantage being male gives me in a patriarchical society. Some of it's tribalism, too.
I disagree. I think most people who trot it out don't think about it at all. It is an emotional reaction used for group signaling and reassurance. It stems from fear, nothing else.
That is why it comes from men down on the economic ladder. Guys my prick brother-in-law who is a banker calls "losers."
Now my brother-in-law calls them "losers" because he knows he got his job by being born into it and he has a small penis.
Earlier in life after I learned all about computers I decided to learn what makes people tick. Not the psychos most people learn about. The normal people.
Then I moved on to understanding politics. That should hold me for awhile.
Oh, and don't worry, I only use my powers for good. Mostly.
Okay, so sometimes I really do love the New York Times:
The fugitive hedge fund swindler Samuel Israel III surrendered to law enforcement officials on Wednesday, ending a manhunt that began shortly after he faked his suicide on the day that he was to report to prison in Ayer, Mass....
On the day that he was to report, Mr. Israel's abandoned GMC Envoy was found along a shoulder of the Bear Mountain Bridge near the Hudson River with the message "suicide is painless" written in dust on the hood. The keys and a bottle of pills were still in the car.
When Mr. Israel's body failed to turn up and the message turned out to be the theme song of "M*A*S*H," the authorities began to suspect he was on the run.
It's all about that "turned out to be".
107: Yeah, I didn't get the logic. Just because "Goodbye Cruel World" turned out to be a song by Pink Floyd didn't make those teenagers any less dead.
Yes, it's a magnificent non-sequitur.
My god, that's a pop culture reference! How unlikely! He must have faked it.
OK, I'll play devil's advocate. "Suicide is painless" is a lot weirder thing to say before killing oneself than "goodbye cruel world" is. Also the song itself is pretty upbeat and M*A*S*H is not really a typical thing one thinks of when contemplating suicide, so it is suspicious.
Now if his car radio was playing this then suicide would be perfectly believable.
