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Yea, you idiot. What's your point?

Verily, it is as fresh-baked bread. Or the scent of fresh basil, or of crushed fresh herbs of any kind on one's fingertips, upon their plucking. (I picked a bunch of fresh herbs recently and had to restrain myself from inviting people to smell my fingers. That just won't do.)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:39 PM
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Yea, if the servants cut it.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:43 PM
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It smells nothing like any of those, parsley.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:44 PM
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I know that. I was free associating.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:46 PM
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I need help, Doc, and bad; I can't forget
the rustle of my father's ballgown as he bent
to say goodnight to me, his kiss, his French scent ...

Give me a shot of something. Or the sound of Ma
and her pals up late, boozing, dealing the cards.
Big Bertha pissing out from the porch under the stars...

It just gets worse. Chalkdust. The old schoolroom empty
This kid so unpopular even my imaginary friend left me
for another child. I'm screwed up Doc, jumpy ...

Distraught in autumn, kneeling under the chestnut trees,
seeing childhood in the conkers through my tears.
Bonkers. And me so butch in my boots down to the macho bars...

Give me a break. Don't let me pine for that first love,
that faint down on the cheeks, that easy laugh
in my ears, in my lonesome heart, the day that I had to leave...

Sweet Jesus, Doc, I worry I'll miss when a long time dead
the smell the smell the smell of the baby's head,
the fresh baked grass, dammit, the new-mown bread.

(-- Carol Ann Duffy, "The Cliché Kid.")


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:48 PM
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It smells nothing like any of those, nor like parsley.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:54 PM
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It smells nothing like any of those, including parsley.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:55 PM
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Nice, Gonerill.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:57 PM
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There is a parrot imitating spring
in the palace, its feathers parsley green.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:57 PM
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The other day, I walked past a lawn where the freshly mown grass had had chamomile growing, and mown, in among it. It was good.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 9:59 PM
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Yea for me, nay for Rah; he's allergic.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 10:07 PM
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By "grass", you mean what, exactly?


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 10:12 PM
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Nay; it stinks of other people being successful at sports. Speaking of reek, where is the Patriots' commiseration/schadenfreude thread? That shit was monumental.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 10:15 PM
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Hell nay. I'm allergic to grass so the smell makes me think of asthma attacks and hives. And the *other* grass smell gives me a raging headache. Ick.


Posted by: tonkelu | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 10:21 PM
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So the objectors don't object to the smell as such; they just object to the associations it has.

Toldja, Benjy.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 10:30 PM
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Actually, I rather like the smell of fresh-cut grass.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 11:20 PM
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Depends on the kind of grass, the heat of the day, and the humidity.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 11:28 PM
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I rather like mowing the grass.

max
['Puppies! Puppies are cool!']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 11:33 PM
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Since 1989 Lorenzo Villoresi has dreamed up his scents in an attic with a breath-taking view over the Arno and Renaissance Florence. Surrounded by some 1,000 small colored bottles bearing such intriguing labels as "sea breeze," "freshly cut grass" and "damp hay," with his charming wife Ludovica he begins by asking about his client's favorite smells. Then there is the sniffing session. "The power of smell is really incredible" he explains. "Lots of memories and emotions can be evoked by a particular essence. My nose or the client's nose is not the end-all and the be-all. A perfume is born in the brain." This complex olfactory psychoanalysis lasts an average of two to three hours and usually costs around $1,200 (960 Euros) including "your very own" perfume. The quantity of each essence is then carefully recorded in a personal file, making reorders simple.

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 11:34 PM
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Seriously, fat 47-y-o balding dudes, get outside for a spell. Yea to fresh-cut grass, yea to freshly cutting the grass, yea to touch football on fresh-cut grass, yea to green stains on blue jeans from tackles in touch football. The smell itself—perhaps inextricably linked to very great things for me, but I'd like to think fresh-cut grass is just a good great smell.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09-21-08 11:38 PM
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Shorter Armsmasher, remembering his youth: If there's fresh-cut grass on the field, play ball.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:13 AM
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Further to 19: Demeter has a scent called Grass, by I think Christopher Brosius, which smells pretty much like a distillation of freshly mown lawn.* It's nice, but not as good as actual mown lawn. For that, you have to go to Miller et Bertraux, which has a perfume called Green, green and green, or something along those lines, which is grass and leaves and more leaves and more grass. The perfume is more expensive than a lawn mow, but a lot cheaper than a lawn. It is also a lot smaller than a lawn.

*Brosius also has a number of scents that are based on specific personal memories. My favorite of these is Black March, which smells like falling face down into wet black dirt in the cold rain.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:39 AM
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the smell of fresh grass means mustard gas.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:44 AM
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which smells like falling face down into wet black dirt in the cold rain.

Kurt Vonnegut Senior's daughter would probably have liked it, then.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:03 AM
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I've given in and googled, Ben, and I still don't know what you're talking about.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:19 AM
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Clichéd and meaningless,
As the smell of cut grass,
Or cats' feet leaping up en masse
From our tin rooftop.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:48 AM
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Mmmm, people smoking grass on fresh-cut grass. Summer.


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 2:14 AM
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yea. also yea, the smell of blooming privet which is off in some way but delightful. I think I mentioned this already that someone made a perfume called privet which they had for sale in east hampton (where there is tons of privet), but they had wussed out and not made it actually smell like privet but rather some inoffensive, generically beachy perfume. this is too bad, since I would wear a perfume that smelled like blooming privet, cut grass, beach roses and salt. william burroughs contends (rightly) that semen also smells somewhat like freshly cut grass. the smell of the other type of grass is proustian reverie for me; my dad's house has an incredible smell when the latent layers of 30 years of pot smoke are reactivated by the strong topnote of a new burning joint, mingled with the salt of the marsh. delicious.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:56 AM
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Wheat germ also is semenish.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 4:07 AM
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Seminal, I mean. Like some obscure book some guy wrote that we're supposed to have read.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 5:24 AM
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I object to the actual smell. Not the associations or the allergen effect. The actual smell is freshly cut grass is disgusting. It damn near ruined my camping, wich happened near a giant field that had been plowed not long ago. Thankfully the fire muffled it.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 5:42 AM
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the freshly growing grass in the spring and early summer smells great, the fresh-cut grass is okay, just a little bit too strong, depends on the distance from the lawn maybe, if very faint it's nice
what i like too is the smell of burning dry fallen leaves and grass


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 5:49 AM
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During my quite thorough bicycle tour of the surrounding 25 miles, new mown hay and very occasional wildflowers were the only pleasant smells. The others were hearty at best: manure (mostly cattle, but turkey is worse), silage, ditch water, and ripe road kill.

With luck, today I'll finish my project and have the 25 mile radius completely covered. The I will have to make 3 more trips to finish the bar-hopping part.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 5:54 AM
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Man up, John: surely you can take 3 bars in a single trip. Especially now that the smell of fresh cut hay will be less prevalent. (And it's early for the smell of burning leaves).


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 6:09 AM
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Avocados taste, to me, of the smell of freshly cut grass.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 6:23 AM
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Yeah, I now do 4 bars per trip, but that counts the one at the end near home.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 6:24 AM
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Ionones, the primary scent component of fresh-cut grass, are also a major component of the great taste of raspberries. They also contribute to the smell of roses and violets. Yea to ionones!


Posted by: bzbb | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 7:56 AM
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yea


Posted by: cleek | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:01 AM
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Demeter has a scent called Grass

I adore this, but unfortunately it doesn't work with my body chemistry. I have a friend who used to wear their Dirt fragrance a lot, which smelled fabulous on her.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:08 AM
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it's striking how different various fragrances smell on different people. my mom can wear all this amber-type oriental perfume which all smells horrible on me.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:22 AM
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Yeah, as a non-fashion-oriented person, it took an embarrassingly long time for me to understand that just as there are colors that you can love the look of but not *look good in,* there are scents that smell great in the bottle or or someone else, but mix poorly with your own. Grrr. In my next life I want to have perfect overlap!


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:26 AM
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there are scents that smell great in the bottle or or someone else, but mix poorly with your own

Except for Axe™ body spray. That stuff gets everyone laid. I saw it on TV.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:35 AM
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An emphatic yes to the smell of fresh cut grass. Unless it's actually phosgene gas, in which case my enthusiasm will be more measured.


Posted by: Tom | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:39 AM
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axe attracts the ladies like an open can of colt .45 in the hands of billie dee williams. we can't stay away!


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:43 AM
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I've given in and googled, Ben, and I still don't know what you're talking about.

KVSr.'s daughter, KVJr's sister, liked it when people fell down, finding it funny.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:43 AM
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Yea to fresh cut grass. Also, Ben, I commend you on a post every word of which I fully understood.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:51 AM
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Mmm. I like perfume on other people, but I've never tried anything that didn't instantly smell like soap on me.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:57 AM
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Yay to fresh cut grass.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 8:57 AM
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You people. I bet you just go gaga for mom and apple pie, too.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:03 AM
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Indie Rock W-lfs-n!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:15 AM
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The smell of freshly cut grass, while always good, is best when either someone else is cutting it or, if one is cutting it, after one has finished cutting it.

Otherwise if one is in the process of cutting the grass the odor is drowned out by either the smell of gas exhaust, the smell of perspiration, or the feeling of resentment that either your parents are making you cut the grass or if you are the parent, the resentment that your offspring are enjoying leisure time while you must cut the grass.

And no, I don't think I over-analyze things, do you?


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:29 AM
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Wait, you mow your lawn with a gas powered mower rather than a push mower? Have you gone stark, staring mad?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:33 AM
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I like apple pie. But my mom smells sort of weird, especially after she's been mowing the lawn, when she smells like freshly cut grass. Which is nasty.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:35 AM
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I miss Ogged.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:44 AM
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52:

Yeah. It was exhaust fumes or sweat smell or making my teens do it or convincing my wife a rock garden would look great and convincing my wife I am not just lazy.

Life is all about choosing the lesser of many evils. Besides, the game was coming on.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:44 AM
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Wait, you mow your lawn with a gas powered mower rather than a push mower?

Asks the woman who lives in a NYC apartment... Do you have any idea how much work those push mowers are? Or how poorly they cut the grass?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:45 AM
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I don't think we've ever owned anything but a push mower, even when we lived in a house with a 3/4 acre lot.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:49 AM
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Electric mowers are definately the preferred solution: you don't smell like gasoline and exhaust, and you don't have to listen to an unmuffled two stroke engine, as your battery has just run out, giving you a reason to stop mowing the fucking lawn.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:50 AM
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We are push mower people. But we have a small lawn.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:51 AM
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone use a push mower, unless it was someone who had literally less than 100 square feet to mow. Maybe policies in California encourage their use or something.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:52 AM
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Actually the preferred solution is goats. Goats or fescue.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:52 AM
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60: No, the 3/4 acre lot was in Washington. On an island.

I'm telling you people, if you were less lazy, you wouldn't need to spend money on gym memberships.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:53 AM
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Asks the woman who lives in a NYC apartment... Do you have any idea how much work those push mowers are? Or how poorly they cut the grass?

When I was in high school, and even more puny than I am now, it was my chore to mow our not very large lawn with a very dull push mower. It was hell. The lawn looked level, but it was not; every lump and bump was an opportunity for the mower to go THUMP and stop moving forward. The whole thing was an utter misery. I wept. My mother is much taller and stronger than I am, and couldn't understand what my problem was.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:58 AM
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We have only owned push mowers. When we live in a house with a yard of any considerable size we generally start the summer saying "we are going to mow this whole thing regularly with a push mower all by ourselves. No really, if we just do it often enough it won't take too much time at all."

Generally by mid summer we are paying someone to mow the lawn with their own gas mower. Its very Amish of us. "It's ok as long as you don't *own* the gas mower"

Our current, and hopefully final, house has a small enough yard that we can use the push mower.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:59 AM
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Technically, I believe that my mowing area is over 100 SF, but not by much.

If I owned land, I would mow no more than what I could comfortably mow by hand. Enough to play catch - 100' x 35' maybe?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 9:59 AM
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63: Thanks RFTS -- the other response were starting to make me feel weak and pathetic.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:00 AM
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The kewlist thing I've seen for lawn mowing were these little hovercraft lawn mowers in England. My rental house only had the old-fashioned boring four wheel electric. I was sad.

But is acid rain better than some mower exhaust? I dunno.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:00 AM
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65: So you are not planning on having a spouse? Or maybe you plan to have a spouse who agrees with you on everything. Good plan.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:02 AM
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Screw it, Di, don't cut the lawn. You know what smells even better than fresh mown lawn? Hay.

Push mowers are the devil's own creation, and, I suspect, the reason that my parents had three kids -- so my dad wouldn't have to use the damn thing himself. When the last of the kids went to college, he called a gardener.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:04 AM
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Flymos? Those are ubiquitous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flymo

We now have a petrol mower [supplied by the landlord] because our electric mower blew up.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:08 AM
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Do you have any idea how much work those push mowers are? Or how poorly they cut the grass?

Wait a second. Set aside propulsion. The quality of cut is determined by 3 things: grass, blade sharpness, and cutting technology. Crappy grass looks crappy however you cut it. Sharpening a blade every couple of years is pretty low on the home upkeep burden list. And world-class golf courses use reel mowers (that would be the tech of push mowers) exclusively for playing areas. The idea that gas mowers, with their whirling blades, are a superior technology to a reel that actually snips the blades of grass between two pieces of steel is an absurdity that derives from too many people trying to use 50 year old, rusty mowers and complaining that they're not as good as a new [gas] one.

Despite our tiny yard, I ponied up for a good quality reel mower, and it works effortlessly (it's a lot lighter than a gas mower) and effectively. Its main failing is that it does a poor job with tall grass. But you shouldn't ever cut tall grass anyway - if you're taking more than 1/3 of the blade off, you're hurting your lawn and making it more susceptible to weeds and grass-killing pests. Plus it'll turn yellow and ugly.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:09 AM
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the first time i cut hay with my father i couldn't sleep coz very strong smell, but the night was really lovely, our tent and forest, the moon, the mountain, perfect
i got really nice leg tan then coz was wearing the shorts all the time, we prepared hay maybe 2-3 yrs only though


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:09 AM
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Before you hit your push mower, before you strike your push mower, remember that I have blades that could easily crush the bones in your hand, and yet I choose not to bite you.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:11 AM
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72 is true. We have a nice, newish, sharp push mower. It cuts like a dream.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:12 AM
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Generally by mid summer we are paying someone to mow the lawn with their own gas mower.

Yeah, generally by that point Mr. B's cutting the lawn with a weed whacker (wacker?), and I'm saying things like, "if you cut it more often..."


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:15 AM
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I'm in year n of a long-running aversion therapy w/r/t the smell of fresh cut grass. For today the smell of fresh cut grass is laden with the positive associations of freshly mown lawns in Posh Deep Blue Suburb: the smell of familial harmony, good government, and unprepossessing affluence.

But somewhere under the surface lurk the negative associations of long ago. For, you see, "fresh cut grass" is just another word for "uncured hay", and haying season evokes for me memories of driving a tractor around a field in endless circles like Rilke's panther; inhaling the acrid diesel fumes emanating from an upright exhaust valve right in front of the steering wheel; my right knee aching from engaging and disengaging a forty-pound clutch; my ears ringing from the whine of the power takeoff shaft at high RPM and from the whirring and clanging of the haybine, which is unfortunately not quite loud enough to completely obscure the shrieks of small mammals being snatched up and disemboweled in the steel combs that feed the cutter bar; the sun burning my shoulders and kneecaps ("at least I can get a tan," I foolishly thought) and catalyzing the painful metabolism of last night's vodka shots and hash.

So...smell of fresh cut grass? A qualified "yea".


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:16 AM
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65: So you are not planning on having a spouse?

My spouse couldn't care less about having a grass lawn. She'd be happy without the catch area, but it's a necessary for me.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:16 AM
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Generally by mid-summer it's dry enough that our lawn has stopped growing and is browning nicely.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:16 AM
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OT: Would someone make a bot for this idiotic thing, please? Fie on PBS.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:17 AM
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I use a two-handed scythe for cutting grass. And souls.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:21 AM
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Read is trumping everyone's stories again.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:21 AM
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71: The tags on that Wiki article are weird. The intro is too short? It reads like a personal reflection? I saw those tags and was getting ready for some revery about the pleasure of a floating mower, or the oddity of seeing them in the countryside, or even the wondrous scent of cut grass. Near as I can tell the complaint centers around a description of a particular technique.

Wiki is so fucking weird.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:26 AM
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Oh, and for the record, I do like the smell. And I have a certain affinity even for the awful exhaust/grass combo scent, due to 3 summers working maintenance at a golf course (6 am, 6 days a week, but it was a pretty awesome job, mostly due to the best boss I've ever had).


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:31 AM
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re: 83

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxo7s8rhDtc&fmt=18

80s advert for one. Poor image quality, though.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:32 AM
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Reel mowers are the new stand mixers.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:34 AM
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That Flymo thing is real? Hovercraft lawnmowers? Weird.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:35 AM
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Screw it, Di, don't cut the lawn.

Yeah, um, kinda tried that one week this spring. One or more of my neighbors was/were not pleased.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:38 AM
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re: 87

Yeah, the downdraft from the rotating blades creates lift so they hover above the grass. There used to be vacuum cleaners here that did the same thing. We had one in the house.

It looked very retro-futuristic. Like a dull metal orb that floated above the carpet [only by 1mm or so].

http://www.137.com/museum/hoovcon.jpg

One of these. It fascinated me when I was little.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pY3TpOTui-8

Youtube vid of one in action.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:40 AM
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71: ttaM - yeah, Flymos! I never learned the name. See!! I was not crazy. Maybe now, but not then at least!

And yeah a good push mower yada yada but you have to cut the grass very frequently with them.

And expanding on what Bave said - reel mowers are the new pasta maker. A way for the yuppies to feel smug.

Unless you own a golf course and have a tractor to pull a bank of reel mowers every day. Then they are da Bomb.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:42 AM
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Wait, what is a group of reel mowers called? A bevy? A gang? I don't think I know.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:42 AM
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I saw a standing mixer for sale at a yard sale yesterday. I was thinking, Either they're selling it cheap, or some people go to yard sales with a lot more cash than I'd expect.

They also had the original built-in cabinets from their kitchen - a tall hutch with glass doors and a couple nice-looking base units. I was pretty sad to be unable to store them for future usage.

While I'm just sort of free-associating here, I got another fucking migraine yesterday. I'm kind of freaking out. But not enough to just call the damn doctor. Turns out I'm a bit of a mediphobe.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:42 AM
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91. A jig.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:47 AM
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Dude, call the doctor. It's probably nothing they can do anything about, but it could be something more serious.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:48 AM
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If you add fresh-cut grass to your homemade paper pulp, the resulting paper will be a pleasant shade of green and will retain the lovely grass smell for some time.

JRoth, dude, call the goddamn doctor.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:50 AM
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Yeah, I actually did, and they said to call back later. But I said it wasn't an emergency, which, for the moment, it isn't.

91: I'm pretty sure "gang." As in "gang mower."


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:51 AM
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Unfogged now tops Larkin, Google ranking-wise.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:55 AM
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Seriously JRoth. Doctor. Lost a friend at the beginning of the year when sudden, unexplained headache turned into brain hemorrhaging. Triggered by preeclampsia, which you probably don't have, but don't fuck around with sudden, severe headaches. (Sure, that might be overreaction. But better than underreaction... )


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 10:55 AM
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And to fresh-mown grass, I add my "yea." One of the subtly discombobulating things about relocating to New York has been the completely different set of summer smells: urine, rotting garbage, the stink of the Gowanus canal, the sea-smells from the harbor when I'm down near the water. Even when I happen on a park where they're cutting the grass, the smell is too contained -- the suburban cut-grass smells of more sprawling places can go on forever, as one neighbor after another finally gets around to cutting the grass on the weekend.

A couple of years ago I visited my hometown for the Balloon Fiesta, and we got up way before sunrise to go out to the field to see the balloons launching. I had forgotten the smells of the semi-desert of Albuquerque, where many plants flower or otherwise release their smells at night rather than in the heat of the day. It was amazing.


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Waziristan will be a good name for comedy routines.

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HATE HATE HATE

One of the reasons i cannot live in thsu subrubs.


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95 is good advice. Parts one and two both.

Thanks for the nagging, friends. I will call again in ~20 minutes, when they said to.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:06 AM
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If you add fresh-cut grass to your homemade paper pulp, the resulting paper will be a pleasant shade of green and will retain the lovely grass smell for some time.

Good to know!


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Yeah, um, kinda tried that one week this spring. One or more of my neighbors was/were not pleased.

Seriously, one week? Where do you live, Camazotz?


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I will call again in ~20 minutes

Good, then I don't have to mention how my father's sudden spike in "sinus headaches" turned out to be a brain tumor that killed him nine months later. Because I wouldn't want to worry you or anything.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:14 AM
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I haven't cut our grass in a couple months. We had a hit, dry July during which it went dormant - after going over it with the mower and cutting almost literally nothing, I took a break. Then we had a rainstorm, it was too hot to mow the next weekend (plus newborn!), and BOOM, grass too high to cut. I kind of keep hoping that it will go into its winter dormancy early, but I know that the truth is that it will grow like mad the next month or so. But I'm only just getting back into household chores, and that one is low on my list.

I feel certain the neighbors won't mind.


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The father of one of my friends hasn't mown or tended to his backyard in something like fifteen or twenty years, and it looks awesome.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:19 AM
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brain hemorrhaging

brain tumor

You guys are the best.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:19 AM
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My sister's husband, when they were still engaged, had a headache that turned out to be an aneurysm. They had to cut off a piece of his skull and keep it elsewhere in his body for some time before replacing it.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:20 AM
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OT: Go here and vote. Apparently the wingers are massing on this one and if there's one thing I know about y'all, it's that you LOVE VOTING ON THE INTERNET.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:23 AM
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The wife of a friend of my father's had a runny nose for years. Then she started getting headaches, and the doctors figured out that she was leaking cerebrospinal fluid into her sinuses, and had been for years.

Just thought I'd share.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:26 AM
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Software error: Whoops -- the link you followed is not correct. Please go to PBS.org to find the correct link.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:27 AM
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The cousin of an old roommate had sharp, frequent headaches, and it turned out that there was a mouse in there nibbling on the cords. Turds all over the place.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:29 AM
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Oops! Oops! Go here to vote on whether you, personally, as an individual, think Sarah Palin is "qualified."


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A friend of mine never had a headache, until one day they found out that he had one of those brain-eating larvae. They always start by eating the headache center just to put you off guard.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:32 AM
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114: 52 percent of respondents so far say yes. Bring out the bots!


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:35 AM
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111 is AWESOME.

Since it's not happening to me, I mean.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:36 AM
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Where is our Big Giant Bailout thread?


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A friend of mine had persistent headaches for years and finally went to the doctor. It turns out that life is suffering. Birth is suffering. Old age, disease and death are suffering. Association with the things you hate is suffering. Separation from the things you love is suffering.

I'm not sure what kind of doctor she went to.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 11:58 AM
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A friend of mine had persistent hotdogs, until a wise therapist made her one with everything.


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A friend of mine had persistent hotdogs

If you know what I mean.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:04 PM
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Like Superman.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:07 PM
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I've been to that same therapist, CN. I paid with a twenty, and when I asked for my change, the wise therapist told me that change comes from within.


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Apo, Sorry to hear about your Dad.

111 leaking cerebrospinal fluid into her sinuses,

I really really hope that was a one-way flow. A spine-cold can be a reach bitch to get over. You end up with itchy vertebrae and the sneezes can knock you over. I know because I live in the same state as the Mayo clinic.

But Jroth, really, migraines? - see a Doc. Yeah they no longer prescribe the good meds but there is the chance they can do something for the pain. Take what you can get.


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Apo, Sorry to hear about your Dad.

Thanks, but it was >20 years ago.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:13 PM
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Take what you can get.

M/tch recommends the suppositories.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:13 PM
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Apo, Oh, somehow I got the idea it was recent. Still, sorry to hear it. I would say "my cat died so I know just how you feel," to tie a couple threads together, but luckily the little cricket in my brain thwacks me in the wedding tackle when I say things like that, so while I think it I don't say it. If you are wondering how I get away with typing it - he can't read.

"Shut up Jiminiy - Not *everything* is about you you stupid insect!"


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:24 PM
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OK, appointment for Wednesday afternoon. If I live that long.

Tripp seems to have missed an appointment or two with his neurologist, IYKWIM.

Yeah, and seriously, where can we talk about McManus, Week 2? Apparently Dodd's proposal is TheDoddworthy.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:35 PM
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It is mind-boggling to me that anyone would want paper that smelled like grass.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:37 PM
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If I live that long
try the rism, you'll live until the appointment, guaranteed
i thought people were disappointed that collapses are cancelled, tried to cheer them up the other day, got no positive responses
i thought, ah they are sensitive about the serious economical matters


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:42 PM
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Hey I have a question about The Continuing Crisis.

This article says that the change of Morgan Stanely and Goldman Sachs into bank holding companies effectively undoes the Glass-Steagall act. But I thought that act was already undone in 1999 by Gramm-Leach-Bilely Act.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:44 PM
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Also, what happens if Paulson's proposals are enacted, then McCain is elected president and names Phil Gramm secretary of the treasury, giving him 700 billion dollars to play with?

Does that mean we are all dead?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:47 PM
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I am thankfully lawn-free, but if I end up tied to one again I think I'll just buy a sheep.

I'm in a bit of a minority in that I hate lawns - they are just about the most sterile thing you can do with a patch of ground other than pave it.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:47 PM
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an appointment or two with his neurologist

Noah had his appointment with the neurologist today. The doctor thinks he has a touch of cerebral palsy affecting his left leg. He's scheduled for an MRI next month to confirm it.

I think this means I'm not allowed to call him Spaz any more.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:47 PM
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That sucks, Apo. Poor little guy.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:49 PM
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Aw shit, apo.

How does that work? Can it spread, or is it just there?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:51 PM
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I'm in a bit of a minority in that I hate lawns - they are just about the most sterile thing you can do with a patch of ground other than pave it.

I couldn't agree more. One summer, when I was still at home, I tried to convince my dad to let the sideyard go to meadow (in suburban NJ). I failed. Our long-term plan for the landscaping of this house involves no grass at all. But we're bad gardeners, so it's a pretty long term.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:53 PM
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Ah, I'm sorry, Apo.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:54 PM
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Doesn't spread, and he's actually a little ahead of schedule developmentally. Mostly, his calf muscle is just very tight, he can't flex his foot backward, and tends to walk on the ball of that one foot. Though it certainly hasn't ever made him move slowly or carefully.

The end of his time in womb had problems, which would be the likely origin. You'd deal with it through physical therapy and probably some time an orthotic ankle brace. Also, weirdly enough, Botox injections into his calf muscle to get it to relax.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:57 PM
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Sorry to hear it, apo. Good luck.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 12:58 PM
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139: That sounds manageable, if insurance will cover everything. You will have to stop calling him "spaz" if he is wearing an ankle brace. Probably "geek" and "tard", too.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:01 PM
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I hope everything works out, Apo.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:01 PM
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M/tch recommends the suppositories.

But not like this


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:04 PM
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Botox
good it's stable and not spreading
amantadine is spasmolytic too iirc, but i don't know whether should use it in your son's case or not
good luck


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Doesn't spread, and he's actually a little ahead of schedule developmentally.

Then you can totally still call him "Spaz." Anyway, best of luck to him.


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Yeah, this sounds like an excuse for calling him "Spaz" -- it's a scary word, but if you're talking about a touch on the level that you didn't notice until he's what, four? it's probably very low in terms of life impact.


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I hope for the best, Apo.


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I think this means you're the only one allowed to call him Spaz any more.

Sorry to hear it, Apo.


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Count me among the lawn haterz. I ripped mine out when I bought the place, but then put in a new back lawn when we had kids. Turns out that all-organic lawn care (which you want to do if you've got little kids frolicking on the grass) is virtually impossible if you lack the time to commit to it, so we have a trashy-looking, weed-choked patch of grass.

Yeah, and seriously, where can we talk about McManus, Week 2?

I just heard Sebastian Mallaby talking about the bailout on NPR. He sounds just enough like Peter Lorre that his otherwise sensible suggestion that bank equity is a better investment than bad loans seemed sinister.


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touch on the level that you didn't notice until he's what, four

He'll turn four in January. We noticed not long after he started walking, but the doctor's original opinion was that the leg bone was just a little torqued and that it would straighten out as he grew. Like I say, it doesn't really slow him down much; he just has a bit of a hitch in his gait.


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Oh my - yes, good luck, Apo (and Noah). Physical therapy and the rest of it, starting this early on, should make a world of difference.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:16 PM
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Aw, poor Noah. I hope for the best.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:17 PM
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Best of luck to Noah and the Apo Folk. I hate to say, but this diagnosis would have redoubled the Spaz-calling in the oudemia family. Not by my parents, but my brothers.

Rob, you will be very happy to know that Tina Fey recently said this in re Palin:

"I want to be done playing this lady Nov. 5," she said. "So if anybody can help me be done playing this lady Nov. 5, that would be good for me."

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bit of a hitch in his gait

Get him a parrot and an eyepatch, then.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:20 PM
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154: Way ahead of you, LB.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:27 PM
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You do have the most adorable kids.


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I'm in a bit of a minority in that I hate lawns - they are just about the most sterile thing you can do with a patch of ground other than pave it.

This is exactly right.


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Apo --- best of luck to Noah with that!


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You do have the most adorable kids.

I dunno. Looks like he's about to go all Equus with his hook on poor, defenseless WonderHorse there.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:32 PM
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Mostly OT, Fleur and I are going to see Equus in NYC in a couple of weeks. She claims to have bought the tickets as a b-day present for me, but I think she really just wants to see Harry Potter's wang. (Just kidding, sweetest! You know I kid, right?)


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:41 PM
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Apo, the massage oil duo is high-larious.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:41 PM
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Also hate lawns. If I move back into my Sacramento house this fall, I'm ripping out the front lawn and putting in a vegetable garden. Our city ordinance allows that now. I expect I would take far better care of a real food-producing garden. I also expect that I wouldn't get much food from it, considering the way my fruit trees get stripped, but that's what my fenced community garden is for.

Best to Noah, whom I presume will be just fine.


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160: You say that like there is something wrong with wanting to see Harry Potter's wang. I'd love to see his wang.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:45 PM
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I'm ripping out the front lawn and putting in a vegetable garden.

Perfect. Herbs might survive better, I dunno. It's always good to have a herb garden a few steps from the kitchen...

lawns are useless unless you a) have small kids and b) enough space for them to run around in. Then they are marginally useful, I guess. But only that.


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Yeah, I hope that works out alright. I'm glad to hear it's minor, and since CP is not progressive, therapy really should help out.

Also, a thread on the massive buyout fund would be sweet. Gotta say, Matt and Ezra have been annoying me with their forays into finance these past couple days, and I want to see if you people have a better clue of what Dodd's plan actually says since Ezra's summary seems impossible.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:48 PM
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131: What the article meant was the post-Glass-Steagall distinction between commercial banks and investment banks. The repeal of Glass-Steagall allowed commercial banks to branch out into investment banking, but there continued to be independent investment banks. The two largest investment banks applied to become commercial banks, thus erasing the distinction entirely.


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I know! MAN I wish someone would post on the massive buyout. They wouldn't even have to write any analysis - just a sentence and a new thread for us to comment in.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:58 PM
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Apo,

If you need it I can recommend someone (as in pediatric neurology) cause, you know, nothing but the best for a friend o' mine. I'm serious.

Getting away from serious, is he left handed? Also he can't have the nickname "Tripp," I got dibs on it, so tough luck sonny.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 1:59 PM
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is he left handed?

All righties in my house. Sometimes he's sinister, though.


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MAN I wish someone would post on the massive buyout. They wouldn't even have to write any analysis - just a sentence and a new thread for us to comment in.

But this actually did turn out to be a thread about new-mown grass. We commenters are very loyal to your topics.


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All righties in my house.

Too bad. Well, the world need regular people too I guess. You gotta play the hand you're dealt.

For medical care, though, I know a few people who know a few people. Ya just gotta come around in the alley . . . but I kid. What? I'm kidding.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 2:07 PM
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Herb lawn.

Herb lawn.

They don't tolerate high traffic, but they smell nice. Maybe even Sybil Vane could bear mowing one.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 2:10 PM
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May brother has an urban vegetable-garden lawn and 8 chickens too. The urban raccoons love him.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 2:16 PM
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Herb lawn.

Best of all, apo will mow yours for free.


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173: Chickens seem to be all the rage here. We may get some next year, but raccoons are a problem.


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128: Good. I recently received my fraternal "Whatever happened to...?" email newsletter from the guy who tracks these things. One entry describes a wife finding her husband dead in front of his computer, with "sudden sharp pain" typed into Google search.


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So don"t get the raccoons.


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It's not true that raccoons don't kill for the sake of killing. My brother's raccoon killed 8x more chickens than he could eat.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 2:30 PM
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Your brother probably shouldn't have kept raccoons and chickens at the same time. At least not in the same place.


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177: Too late. Somehow one found out how to get under the porch roof, and now when I evict them, I'll be evicting baby raccoons. What a monster I am. OTOH, I won't eat them, so I could be worse.


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he just has a bit of a hitch in his gait.

If "Spaz" is out, go with "John Wayne" or "Duke." Or even "Pilgrim."


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One entry describes a wife finding her husband dead in front of his computer, with "sudden sharp pain" typed into Google search.

This seems like a put-on.


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Wiki:

Defecation is normally assisted by taking a deep breath and trying to expel this air against a closed glottis (Valsalva maneuver). This contraction of expiratory chest muscles, diaphragm, abdominal wall muscles, and pelvic diaphragm exert pressure on the digestive tract. Ventilation at this point temporarily ceases as the lungs push the chest diaphragm down in order to exert the pressure. Thoracic blood pressure rises and as a reflex response the amount of blood pumped by the heart decreases. Death has been known to occur in cases where defecation causes the blood pressure to rise enough to cause the rupture of an aneurysm or to dislodge blood clots (see thrombosis).

Sometimes when someone is found dead on the toilet it isn't heroin. Medical examiners and pathologists have a term for this one. Maybe Jesus mother Mary can tell us what it is.


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If "Spaz" is out, go with "John Wayne" or "Duke." Or even "Pilgrim."

Marion.


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Couldn't you just build them a raccoon-hutch? I'm sure that there's a gourmet restaurant that would be happy to have a source of fresh raccoon.


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164: What do you mean? Matt's drunken "let's all become hard-core libertarians" post was awesome! The definitive document of the Internet age.


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167: I was so inspired by the guy who hacked into Palin's account that I hacked into Unfogged to give myself front-page posting privileges. But then I couldn't think of anything I wanted to say.


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I'm taking today's bad day for the market as a good sign that the Christmas/Easter/Halloween/Get Out of Jail event that was Friday has been successfully repudiated.


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178: Who says raccoons don't kill for the fun of killing? The raccoon lobby?


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186 -> ???


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It is mind-boggling to me that anyone would want paper that smelled like grass.

I'll write you letters on it.


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Also, Apo, if Noah has CP, then you're as qualified as Palin is to run for vice president!


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192: There are parts of North Carolina where you can actually see South Carolina!


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I think your hair would look really cute in an updo.


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188: The wsj is reporting that Bushco has accepted key elements of the Dodd plan, including limits on executive payouts, help for homeowners in foreclosure, and a government stake in any company it bails out.


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183: I'm not sure if she had any cases like that. I think it was in the bathroom that my maternal grandfather died of a heart attack, but mercifully, she wasn't part of the death investigation.


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If "Spaz" is out, go with "John Wayne" or "Duke." Or even "Pilgrim."
Dr. House, a very interesting man


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186 -> 165.


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195: And CNBC is reporting "No Deal."


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There are parts of North Carolina where you can actually see South Carolina!

Also, I stopped here for a hot dog once.


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Stop messing with the grass thread damn it!

Seriously, what's better than sex in the twilight on newly-mown grass? (Clothes mostly on, mind.)

max
['I suggest a discussion of which part of the big shitpile you want!']


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Max, that's about the least harmonious relationship between comment and bracketed signoff I've ever seen from you.


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Brain hurt! Brain running in multiple directions! Brain trying to carry on separate argument with DeLong technocrats, Republican thieves, actual Democrats, and think about grass! Grass cheery! Banks sucky!

Brain went and sat on grass, but continue, sadly to run.

max
['Brain sad. Sad, sad brain.']


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what's better than sex in the twilight on newly-mown grass?

Sex in zero gravity?


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203: Might want to go to the doctor. I've heard a guy got a brain hemorrhage that way.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:16 PM
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Cheer up, Max. If your brain hurts, then there's no larva slowly eating it.


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What's the word on zero gravity sex? You'd have to relearn a lot of things. I can see pluses and minuses with no gravity effects possible.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:19 PM
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Headlines I don't want to see:


Murder suspect heading back to Pa
Aigh!

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Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:20 PM
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Having read Dodd bill from end to end: Massive improvement on Paulson bill.

Dodd bill in terms of actually accomplishing anything it is supposed to: EPIC FAIL.

max
['His heat is in mostly the right place, but his head is kinda up his ass.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:21 PM
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Seriously, what's better than sex in the twilight on newly-mown grass?

Being bitten by bugs while having sex on the grass, followed by a very awkward conversation in which you try to ascertain whether the red welts around your wabblies are due to bugs or VD.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:24 PM
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Sex in zero gravity?

How does the penetration and such actually work in those circumstances?

Cheer up, Max. If your brain hurts, then there's no larva slowly eating it.

On the theory that it still works? Acutally, it is entirely possible to get worms in your head and have them burrow in and sorta curl up and die and leave a hole.

max
['And how would you tell?']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:25 PM
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What I like lawns for is croquet.


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How does the penetration and such actually work in those circumstances?

For substantially less than $700 billion, the federal government could send me on the next Shuttle mission to report back. But you know what short shrift this administration gives to hard science.


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The other astronauts will not be pleased when they read their parts of the mission plan.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:33 PM
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If this is indeed the financial robbery thread, I wanted to report that I learned a lot from NPR's interview with seasoned nonpartisan analyst Newt Gingrich this afternoon. Apparently the big plutocrats and their #1 friend, Chris Dodd, are pushing through a plan to bail out the powerful at the expense of the powerless, and since doing such a thing is not only anti-American but anti-Republican, he can't figure out why the Bush Administration is going along with it.


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With all the people who have been up in space, I'm assuming that there is some couple who has done it. NASA and the Russian space agency aren't talking about it. But it has happened. The question is who and when.

The wiki entry on the subject is entertaining, with a whole section on "breasts"


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:35 PM
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I use a horse to mow my lawn.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:35 PM
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Another sad R&D failure from lack of proper funding. BASTARDS!

The other astronauts will not be pleased when they read their parts of the mission plan.

Obviously, you want to recruit TEH SEXXY astronauts.

max
['Supermodels in Spaccccccceeeeeeeeeee.']


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If this is indeed the financial robbery thread,

I think the thread is a Schrodringers box thread: could it be grass, cash or ass?

I wanted to report that I learned a lot from NPR's interview with seasoned nonpartisan analyst Newt Gingrich this afternoon. Apparently the big plutocrats and their #1 friend, Chris Dodd, are pushing through a plan to bail out the powerful at the expense of the powerless,

Which seems to be more or less true.

and since doing such a thing is not only anti-American but anti-Republican,

Well, it is certainly anti-American. Which Republicans would it be harmed by the bill? Platonic Republicans?

he can't figure out why the Bush Administration is going along with it.

Since I doubt he understands what's going on, I can credit him with a B- there.

max
['It's very truthy.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:53 PM
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I think that a couple of sex specialists should be sent up to work through the entire range of possibilities. I think of astronauts as being either nerdy and stiff, or old fashioned wham-bam studs without much versatility.

Sort of like having a very skilled test pilot run a new plane through its routines.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:53 PM
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Newt pretty much destroyed the whole idea of "understanding what's going on", I think. For a serious political pro, trying to understand what's going on is just extra baggage.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:55 PM
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My prediction: A combination of peak oil and a collapse of the dollar will lead local gas stations to start issuing their own currency, backed by gallons of gas. You may not trust the faith and credit of the US government, but Phil's Sonoco will redeem your Phil's Note for gasoline any time you request it.


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Oh, here we go:

Republican incumbents in close races have the easiest vote of their lives coming up this week: No on the Bush-Pelosi Wall Street bailout.
God Himself couldn't have given rank-and-file Republicans a better opportunity to create political space between themselves and the Administration. That's why I want to see 40 Republican No votes in the Senate, and 150+ in the House. If a bailout is to pass, let it be with Democratic votes. Let this be the political establishment (Bush Republicans in the White House + Democrats in Congress) saddling the taxpayers with hundreds of billions in debt (more than the Iraq War, conjured up in a single weekend, and enabled by Pelosi, btw), while principled Republicans say "No" and go to the country with a stinging indictment of the majority in Congress.
This creates pressure on the "change" message. If this issue is made controversial, and Obama is not the first to make it an issue, how exactly is a Washington deal backed by Bush's Treasury Secretary "change?"
But for this to be actionable, it has to be controversial. So this can't be a few lonely voices like Coburn and DeMint. It needs to be the bulk of the Republican conference. In an ideal world, McCain opposes this because of all the Democratic add-ons and shows up to vote Nay while Obama punts.
History has shown us that "inevitable" "emergency" legislation like the Patriot Act or Sarbanes-Oxley is never more popular than on the day it is passed -- and this isn't all that popular to begin with. All the upside comes with voting against it.
A bailout may be inevitable, but so to can be the political benefit for Congressional Republicans if played correctly.

max
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Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 3:59 PM
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Max, obviously the Republicans are going to make lemonade from the sour, shriveled lemons they've been given to suck by the Bush administration's incompetence, but I'm not sure why you think Dodd's bill is so terrible as policy, as opposed to as politics. (Honestly, if they make it even -more- punitive, I'm not even sure it would be terrible as politics.) It's what a responsible, non-granting-godking-powers emergency package from Paulson would have looked like.


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God, there really is a wikipedia article on sex in space, and I was able to guess one of the aliases (Space sex) right off.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 4:10 PM
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I originally mowed with a reel mower and loved it. Then a tree fell on the shed and the mower got rained on and it died. Then I got a gas mower but the remains of the shed collapsed when I poked them and it got rained on (this time I used a tarp and everything) and it died. Now I pay a dude who runs a local mowing service. He charges a reasonable tolerable rate and my lawn looks reasonably good and every two weeks he carefully puts my Obama sign back in the same place and everybody's satisfied and my lawn-obsessed neighbor gets to feel self-righteous about doing it himself just like I used to feel. Yes, I am a fat-ass American and I have better things to do with my weekends.

I actually like the smell of exhaust, though, and I like the look of a lawn. Its uniformity is pleasing.

I think JRoth should get to the doctor immediately lest s/he abet the murder of the rest of the crew of the USS Reliant but I don't want to fear-monger or anything.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 09-22-08 4:44 PM
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182: I re-read the newsletter. It was "sudden cramping pain". Without digging him up and questioning his wife, I'm stuck.

We all knew the guy, the newsletter writer didn't email it on April first, and there hasn't been a flurry of emails denying the story. It's just not in the writer's personal style to pull something like that.

Hell, I can easily see myself dying while looking up my symptoms, it's not all that far-fetched.


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I'm surprised that 225 sounds surprised.


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I actually like the smell of exhaust,

Smells like victory?


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 09-23-08 6:16 PM
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