Re: Counterpoint: the hipster moment is always already at its apotheosis, because the revolution is and must be permanent.

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Did you mean "simultanesoulsy" in a portman kinda metempsychotic sinse?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:00 PM
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Never have I hoped more for deep, terrible economic depression, hyperinflation, mass unemployment, civil unrest, and ecological catastrophe...


Posted by: JH | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:13 PM
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I have neither contempt nor nostalgia for the original hipsters, but the return of the goatee, admiration for Bukowski, urban over rural black music etc remains incomprehensible.

Get offa my lawn, beatniks.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:19 PM
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1: I meant it more as an indication of my deep and abiding need for an editor.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:29 PM
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who is free enough of the hipster's taint to write the hipster's history without contempt or nostalgia?

The square?


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:31 PM
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Get offa my lawn, beatniks.

Lighten up, Daddy-O.


Posted by: Maynard G. Krebs | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:32 PM
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5: Woulda be easier before hipsterism colonized squaredom.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:32 PM
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I might have said "recline, dine and opine," but I'm a fool for assonance.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:35 PM
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The hipster exists only out of its element. There are no suburban hipsters.


Posted by: bjk | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 2:59 PM
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This is long settled.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 3:14 PM
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7: Curse you, Huey Lewis and your infernal News!


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 3:15 PM
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I'm really kind of freaked out by the cop shooting here this morning. Not esp. close to my house*, but 3 dead cops, 5 fatherless kids, all from one nutjob who was convinced Obama wants his guns. Fuck.

Won't be around to discuss, btw.

* Tho Forensics van was just behind me, headed over.

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Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 3:25 PM
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I certify that I am 100% uncontaminated by hipster taint. I never get near their nethers, much less between them.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 5:07 PM
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I certify that I am 100% uncontaminated by hipster taint.

Not possible. The invitation says so.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 5:19 PM
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Indeed. Even man in the state of nature is not uncontaminated by the hipster's taint.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 5:28 PM
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But how do you tell a hipster that their taint smells contaminated?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 5:32 PM
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I don't think the flier is an authoritative source. After all, if you have n hipsters, you will have n+1 ironic personal haircuts.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 5:39 PM
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I don't think the flier is an authoritative source.

You would say that, you who thinks he is uncontaminated.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 5:42 PM
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Has the day already come that Huey Lewis is ironically hip? If so, I despair.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 5:45 PM
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Surely even the hipsters, and those who have progressed beyond hipsterdom, have some interests outside omphaloskepsis ...

So does that mean that this is the thread for talking about college basketball?


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:05 PM
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19: Huey Lewis transitioned directly from regular un-hipness to ironic un-hipness -- completely bypassing ironic hipness -- thanks to American Psycho.

Sometimes these ironically grandiloquent posts from Ben contain gems. "Omphaloskepsis" is such a gem. Well played, sir.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:06 PM
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Also, neb has totally ruined n+1 for me. I'd been content to let them be over there doing their thing, with me here ignoring their rss feed.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:09 PM
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21: Well thank god for that.
"omphaloskepsis"? Ben's biting someone's style, but I can't remember whose.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:16 PM
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His own.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:18 PM
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Shame on you then. Allow past w/lfs/n his glories, however rare, without sullying them, or future no flows will sully yours.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:26 PM
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12: It was on the news here. I hope talk radio is proud of itself. Fuckers.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:30 PM
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Obama should take everyone's guns away, just to stick it to that guy.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:44 PM
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24, 25: The first thread linked from that link is interesting.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 6:52 PM
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Now all will look at comment #1 without comprehension, and consider me a crazy, cranky troll. But it's ok, after some of my best comments ever disappeared into the ether the other night, I am used to the the true truth being the hidden truth.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:02 PM
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29: I think we figured out that neb suffered a typo.

after some of my best comments ever disappeared into the ether the other night

The one where you said "I love U all" or something like that? Never saw it.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:06 PM
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arthegall!!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:20 PM
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30.3:Well,I thought it was hilarious

Mission-creep has damaged Emerson, parsi. Beware.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:25 PM
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Oops. arthegall!-pwned by eb in the other thread. I added an extra exclamation point, though.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:26 PM
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blume!!1!


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:33 PM
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32.2: What's that? I don't see that I have to beware of Emerson. He's had mission-creep for some time.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:35 PM
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It's becoming increasingly clear that the successors of n are so called because they are not interested in incremental change. Only n, which appears to be a constant, plus another constant.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:39 PM
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35:I was referring to any missions, callings, projects that you might inadvertently find thrust upon yourself.

Hmm, the previous post could be ironically applicable.

But I violate my own principles.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 7:57 PM
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37.1: You mean I shouldn't say anything in the Fools thread? Right, I know.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:00 PM
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(Actually, you may mean adopting a mission with respect to the n+1 people. Nah. Best left alone.)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:15 PM
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I thought this game was going to get interesting, but I guess not.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:33 PM
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Tyler Zeller is the second coming of Serge Zwikker.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:35 PM
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I'm feeling deprived of what would most likely have been an intriguing Pitt/NC matchup. Normally, I root for other Big East teams, but not finding it in me for this one.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:37 PM
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But isn't Jay Wright's so much more suave than Jamie Dixon? Even mediated by the television, one just basks his warm glowing warming glow...


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:44 PM
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Apparently so much basking that I lose the ability to speak English...


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:45 PM
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I'm just posting to confirm my hypothesis that the Troll of Sorrow will post at least once soon afterward.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:47 PM
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Boy are you going to have egg on your face after a while, Adam.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 4-09 8:59 PM
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Kotsko, you post-maud fraud! You're a doo-wop clown and you'll never understand that humans crave murder and fucking on a grand scale and... and... and... uh... I usually say something hateful about Yids, don't I...

... oh, bother.


Posted by: Nooobody expects the Troll of Sorrow! | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 12:32 AM
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At 5:33 and 6:11, Adam, in case you missed them.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:16 AM
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hipsterism colonized squaredom
I'm a fool for assonance.

I really don't want to know what they're doing with their colons, since I've already seen goatse.

Even man in the state of nature is not uncontaminated by the hipster's taint.

Man is born free, and everywhere he is trapped on someone's lawn.

Only n, which appears to be a constant, plus another constant.

Someday n-n, I swear.

max
['n of Troll.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:17 AM
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There's a new spambot generator that mines the post or one of the comments and constructs an almost-plausible response. At Language Hat the bot posted this:

I agree. Written words a lot of weight and are proof of existence.

in response to these two lines of a poem:


Words weigh more which, carefully measured,
Say that the world exists.

That response would have been almost OK if it hadn't started from a poem. There are others that seem pretty stupid, but human -- i.e., AS has been attained.

Or maybe a meat troll is pranking LH.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:00 AM
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i liked the building and repair spam, but LH deleted it
musicbot!


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:24 AM
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To paraphrase Becker and Fagen, proto-hipsters from Steely Dan: "[A]ll things considered, the [Unfogged] experience poses, we think, nothing so much as the musical analog of Richard Burton's famous query, in the sword and sandal epic 'The Robe' -- 'were you ... out there?' Yes, we were."


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 10:02 AM
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It was great fun meeting people in DC over the weekend. Now that I've mostly caught up on sleep, I look forward to checking the thread--days behind, as usual, so you can tell it's really me.

I'd be scanning it right now except that my workplace's web-filter is once again convinced that I must be denied access to the page due to (and I swear, I am not making this up) "Pornography (Italian)".

I must say I shall be quite disappointed if I load the thread when I get home and am not able to find Italian pornography therein. Consider yourselves duly warned.

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Posted by: Rah | Link to this comment | 04- 6-09 11:40 AM
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