It's interesting that they attributed one comment to Burke, but not the other one to BPhD.
There's some good stuff in that thread. I missed it the first time. The last comment made me giggle.
I'm not sure I read the thread either, I better do that.
"Unfogged's Timothy Burke"
WE OWN YOU NOW, BURKE.
Alameida!
Seeing Alameida posting on the front page is the same kind of bittersweet pleasure as a one-night Led Zep reunion performance: delightful on its own terms, but a sad reminder that the band can never get back together again.
Did cerebrocrat just disappear, or did he undergo a pseud change operation and is still around?
9: He moved to Japan, I think, and hasn't been seen since.
Great, so now NPR will hate us. I can only assume this means my gift subscription to Newsweek will go away and Weekend America will return to my local station. Just fucking great.
I bet they'll do a feature story on us to get even.
He moved to Japan, I think, and hasn't been seen since.
Someone should tell him that they have the Internet there.
Do your stations carry World Have Your Say (alternate title: Nasty, Idiotic Blog Threads in Live Audio)? Just awful.
B's best line in that thread compares visiting a friend to being waterboarded by leprechauns.
They'll interview the Bass Playing Librarian and she'll say only NPR-horrible things about us.
OT: Eve Sedgwick died yesterday. I'm very sad.
17: I feel stupid. I didn't realize until just now that Eve Sedgwick and Edie Sedgwick were different people.
The only place I could find out more about Eve Sedgwick's death was on Wikipedia. Nothing at NYT, nothing at Google News. Weird.
Didn't Sedgwick suffer from breast cancer at one point? Was there a recurrence?
Another of the famous people I met when I was young and promising.
19: She's been very ill for a long time, and has long outlived her doctor's expectations. She's been holding classes at her apartment for the past few months, but still teaching, which is amazing.
I'm relistening to the le show episode mentioned in the thread.
I can only hope this means that the good people of WFMU read the thread through, saw the referenced to Jena & Gomorrah, and want nothing more than to pay me a princely sum to broadcast music on their station. My bona fides are in order, people!
That's very sad about Sedgwick. I loved freaking my undergraduates out with her "How to Bring up Your Kids Gay."
Sad, sad. Between Men was one of the first non-received-wisdom theory books I looked for and bought, that is, a book that I figured out I wanted to read on my own rather than as part of some "read this in order to prove that you're a real intellectual" Big Other reading list I compiled from hanging around with competitive grad students. I feel a lot of emotional connection to her work.
Unfogged forum -- kind of like the Roman Forum. Thank you Wikipedia: "The oldest and most important structures of the ancient city are located in the forum, including its ancient former royal residency the Regia and the surrounding complex of the Vestal virgins."
I have had Dialogues on Love sitting here on loan from a friend for years. I'll read it today.
My favorite NPR moment was when Scott Simon asked a monk if he ever wacked off . . . That was classy.
Sad to hear about Sedgwick. Epistemology of the Closet, esp. the discussion of homosociality, was a special and delightful hit during the all-male chapter of my education.
I understand that that chapter is overdue for release on DVD.
I would love to see a film version of Epistemology of the Closet set at WS's alma mater.
Do your stations carry World Have Your Say (alternate title: Nasty, Idiotic Blog Threads in Live Audio)?
The smaller of the two public stations here does, and I can't ever hear the title of the show without replacing it with "World Shut Your Mouth".
I figure it's proof that idiot radio callers aren't a specifically American thing.
Sorry, that was from Standpipe's blog, but I'm in mourning. I'm not sure we'll ever be able to trace the reach of her influence on, like, everything. I've been talking about her ideas in every class I've ever taught, and I'm not even a devoted Sedgwickian. She's just there, in everything.
31: Brokeback 2: [WS's AM] hasn't come out yet.
34: Wrongshore, I think we have your next project right there.
I frequently get irritated by NPR for some of the reasons mentioned in the link, but the comments in the link remind me of those irritating music fans for whom no band is ever cool enough, except some arcane band that only the commenter knows.
BR and I will be at Wolftrap on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend for PHC if anyone else wants to join the uncool. 6th year in a row.
Most fora are very foggy, you see. But not this one.
While I was at Wikipedia looking to see who Sedgwick was I noticed that Marilyn Chambers had died yesterday.
I learned a lot from Sedgwick. This is very sad.
Where is the queer theory blogging going on?
40:Good question. Google didn't help much, or her homepage. I did find someone who adapted
"Heuristics for Reading Nineteenth-Century Fiction" for Marxian reading. Even filtered and adapted, it impressed me somehow about EKS as a teacher.
I also found the RCT, which is probably adequate for someone like me.
Where is the queer theory blogging going on?
ATM, naturally.
Oh, M/tch. The Mineshaft is all about praxis, not theory.
I should note that Walt Someguy disagrees, but you know how some guys are.
But what is praxis without theoryliveblogging?
I think Sedgwick is going to make my brain explode, and I am still in the intros.
This is what happens when you don't pay attention: you get sold into slavery to a blog.
I should get a two-minute hate going on NPR on my own blog, though. It's been too long. Our local NPR station is so screamingly amateurish that it drives me absolutely nuts.
No more masturbating to Marilyn Chambers.
48: I thought about saying that about Eve, but we can never stop masturbating to Eve. Eve has always known we were masturbating, and thought it was fine. That's not going to stop now.
Forum? Penthouse?
I can't belive this happened to me, but I was online and came across Unfogged (ATM)…
48 pwnd by 39
Sometimes I think some people skip over my comments, but then I recognize that as mere paranoia.
I also afterthought that 39 might get me in trouble, in context, but there is no more to it that what it is.
Went to Wiki, searched for "Evie Sedgwick" which go me no further than Edie, so went to "Recent Deaths" and there Marilyn was.
Stanley is the heir of Fontana Labs, who was the heir of Bob.
Stanley's kind of a cross between FL and Bob.
Do those who knew (know of) Eve Sedgwick care to talk about her & her work, would rather not do it here or with me, or just grieve individually or communally offblog?
Because the first question to arise after reading the Wiki page was why this ignorant layman, me, had heard a lot about Judith Butler but not Sedgwick.
And maybe it's a rude question, in which case I am used to being ignored.
I started reading that post thinking "hey, I guess republicans aren't *completely* evil if they hate Will Shortz too!". Then I realized they were quoting me. Without attribution. So: yep. Evil.
I misread. Though the commenters and blogger on that particular post seem to be, yes.
Asynchronous Transfer Mode? The blogosphere is really confusing.
Dunno, Bob M: The voltages around French Theory are higher (plus Butler is brilliant). And QT is still a niche area -- a surprising number of academics still think it's just a fancy word for gay stuff in general, unaware that there's a more fundamental critique out there about how we start dividing the world into straight and gay.
To violate the sanctity of off-blog communications, Rfts just suggested from the other room that Sedgwick got pigeonholed as "queer theory", whereas Butler is "gender studies". Also, Gender Trouble is probably a sexier book in intro-to-crit-theory terms than Between Men.
But that's a very interesting question, and I'd be curious to know if anyone with a real queer theory background has thoughts on how it shook out.
There's now an obit up in the Nation's site, by Richard Kim. The obit is more about Richard Kim than Sedgwick, though. It's interesting that the NYT has an obit for Marilyn Chambers up already, but not one for Sedgwick, though Sedgwick taught in NY.
18: Stein and Plimpton's Edie is shelved next to Tendencies on Ellen's and my bookshelves.
Browsing around Wikipedia, while 1/4 of the way thru the RCT (a reason I am a slow reader is that I go from book to Web constantly)
1) The page "Thinkers Influenced by Deconstruction", quite long, does not include Sedgwick. Not my place to edit. maybe she didn't want to be so categorized.
2) But the "queer theory" page, while of course including lots of names, seems to group at the top Foucault, Butler, Sedgwick.
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Swing and a miss! No more masturbating to the voice of Harry Kalas.
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65: Sure, but would Sedgwick like bob?
Sedgwick liked everyone. It was the most amazing thing about her. She really poured her attention and affection into everyone. I've never met anyone who did that whom I liked/trusted except her.
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No more masturbating to Mark 'The Bird' Fidrych.
Jesus, they're dropping like flies.
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68:Waaaal. The second thing that crossed my mind, from a position of total ignorance, was although the work of Judith Butler and Eve Sedgwick might be similar and equally challenging, their personalities and persona might be different. Or not, that's baseless speculation.
I did a search at the Valve on the Theory's Empire discussion, amd Sedgwick recieved many of the types of formal criticism that Butler and Zizek get, but with much less vitriol. I won't go any further, Berube and Holbo are mad at me already.
Your adversaries can help make you famous.
It's because Sedgwick was single-handedly holding back death. Now it's over for most of us.
Now it's over for most of us.
Masturbating? No way. They can have my masturbation when they pry it out of my cold dead hands.
Now it's over for most of us.
Quick, masturbate to yourself while you still can!
Me too. I was a kid in Michigan in the 70s.
This is Fidrych at 31.
75: Oh man. Also, check out Steve Stone in that video! Crazy.
NPR does have some great bits but for the most part it only seems as good as it does because of the dire state of most American factual radio. Compare 90% of NPR's output with, say, Radio 4 or Radio France, and it looks awful. I realise it's not a fair comparison, given their funding levels and structure, but still.