Thou shalt not covet because it is simply unnecessary. I will place such a heavy tax burden on those that have achieved the American Dream that, by the end of my term as President, nobody will have any wealth or material goods left for you to covet.
Oh, SNAP!!!
We need someone who speaks Hebrew to weigh in on the anti-Christ article. 'cause you know, I might have to believe it unless it is debunked.
It's about time we had some well-sourced articles around here.
It's always the Old Testament with these losers, isn't it?
In other religion news, reading Eberhard Bethge's biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer is getting me down.
Well, birtherism was at the end of that article.
Yglesias and DeLong each had post about polls and birthers, Yglesias broke down by party and DeLong broke down by region, both finding the numbers amazing. So I collated the results in my mind to decide that like 80% of Southern Republicans are birthers, and almost the entirety of the movement.
I guess the point is that I am so fucking tired of these people.
That's some pretty weak stuff. Standard-issue anti-tax with only a trace of race-baiting.
The ultimate goal of the thought police's minions in government, Hollywood, the media, academia and various homosexual and Moslem advocacy groups is not to restrict us to our own borders. It is to restrict us within them, and with every victory their iron burka descends ever lower over those who speak Truth
Iron Burka FTW.
Of course, I didn't read the comments.
just yikes. What a bunch of dumbasses.
Thanks for, urm, sharing.
I am so fucking tired of these people.
I've been finding your strategy of ignoring them pretty satisfying, if not effective.
It's effective at making me not turn homicidal and/or suicidal. So there's that.
Thou shalt not kill, unless you have an unwanted, unborn baby. For it would be an abomination to punish your daughter with a baby.
I see their point here. Punishing your daughter with a baby is the American way, dammit!
11: Homicide is preferable, but mockery is better still.
Honest to god, I think the Southerners=birthers thing is a damning indictment of public education in the southern states.
It makes me wonder what the fuck kind of official state records they have down there in the South.
Iron Burka FTW.
Coming this fall to HBO.
It makes me wonder what the fuck kind of official state records they have down there in the South.
Birth certificates come on stone tablets signed by God.
Southerners=birthers thing
I'd like to see a little more data first, if it's okay with y'all.
Honest to god, I think the Southerners=birthers thing is a damning indictment of public education in the southern states.
I think this is a mistake. It's maybe true to some extent. But you can't expect schools to overcome systematic cultural bias. People who grow up among redneck dumbfucks aren't going to become enlightened, productive citizens just because they have a good civics teacher.
(I admit I may have a bit of defensiveness, having gone to public schools in a nominally southern state.)
18: Jesus Christ, apo, the man posted his birth certificate to Daily Kos! What more do you want?!
20: Data = who's a birther and who's not.
It's OK, Apo, you're not like most of those people.
24: Um, uh=Like what I was doing in my "correction". That's the ticket! Mine was a joke too ... she's not buying it? ...
25: The meta-ness! It is destroying us all!
I never meta-thread I didn't like.
19: See, I'm saying that b/c I know and am fond of so many southerners. What I meant is that at the very least you'd think people would be learning what does and doesn't constitute evidence.
DeLong's data is here, and it's pretty striking. I'd've expected more crazy in the west, but maybe it's the steadying influence of California.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/07/republicans-the-party-for-people-who-are-insane-southern-republicans-by-contrast.html
So just last week my little brother was out here, and he happened to mention that both my parents love Glen Beck. Jesus Fucking Christ. I am now afraid to ask them where they think Obama was born, even more afraid to ask what religion they think he is.
Sometimes with family, it's best not to know.
Does the Antichrist really "have" a "religion" per se?
33: Well, I suppose it would be Christianity, you know, for him or her to be into the whole "Christ" idea in the first place.
I sense a problem here.
Beelzebub does have constituents, and your parents are among them.
29:That's what I was trying to do at 5, just ballparking, if 45 percent of Republicans are birthers, and a lot of Northern Republican are sane, that would mean a very high percentage of Southern Republicans would ned to be birthers to create the average. And then if you poll "Southerners" you will include a lot Democrats, liberals minorities, etc who are not birthers...and so forth.
As far as education goes, I can only say that aggressive ideologues (and others) will tell things to pollsters and otherwise publicly profess beliefs for a lot of reasons, including tribal solidarity. There are things to deduce from statements, but a person's true belief (whatever that means) is rarely one of them.
I think that Southern conservatives partly profess belief in stuff like creationism and Obama's birth status in a direct desire to separate themselves from the rest of us. In a particular way.
Digby has focused on this, They want to dislike us, and have created an identity and purpose from that dislike. A lot follows from understanding that.
Some people obviously can compartmentalize. Believe Obama is a Kenyan despite all evidence, or that the world is 8000 years old and then go run the nuclear plant.
Southern Whites ...via CT, somebody else is trying to massage the numbers.
the proportion of white Southern voters with doubts about their president's citizenship may be higher than 70 percent.
Dig it. If 70 percent of white Southerners have those doubts, well at least 25% of Southern whites are Democrats, so how many Southern Republicans? Almost all of them?
It's a tribal/purity marker.
I wonder if the Sunday Law. Pope is the Antichrist folks are feeling threatened by the Obama=AC movement. Is there no safe haven from the man's meglomania?
The title of the Pope in Rome is Vicarius Filii Dei [Latin for "Vicar of the Son of God"]. This is inscribed on his mitre; and if you take the letters of his title which represent Latin numerals (printed large) and add them together they come to 666.
V = 5, I = 1, C = 100, A = 0, R = 0, I = 1, U = 5, S = 0 total =112
F = 0, I = 1, L = 50, I = 1, I = 1 total=53
D = 500, E = 0, I = 1 total=501
======= ======= =======
TOTAL 112 + 53 + 501 = 666
33, 34: The question is a bit more Jesuitical than I feel entirely comfortable with, but I have quoted this before when the subject of the Antichrist came up:
"Christ and Christ's adversary the devil are mutually exclusive opponents, but in such a way that even the devil, unwillingly, must serve Christ, and willing evil, must ever again do good, so that the kingdom of the devil is always only under the feet of Christ. ... The world is not divided between Christ and the devil; it is completely the world of Christ, whether it recognizes this or not."
(Bonhoeffer, Ethics)
If God was so angry with the Jews for not searching more diligently into the prophecies he had given them to know Christ by, why should we think he will excuse us for not searching the Prophecies which he hath given us to know the Antichrist by?- --Newton
Sir Isaac Newton wrote his comment upon the Revelation to console mankind for the great superiority he had over them in other respects.
--Voltaire
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Great dream this morning: I was part of the Jewish Resistance after the collapse of civillization. We were holed up in the house I grew up in, and my sister's cat had gone completely insane and kept leaping 20 feet at a time to attack my head and face. The forces of evil were almost upon us, and we knew they were going to eat us when we were captured. My companion suggested that the best thing to do was pull a Massada and ritually kill ourselves rather than face capture and eating. Just then, there was a knock on the back door. A gigantic train of crusty punx had just arrived to save us! One of the evil people came by to gloat, and the crusties trussed her up and threw her into the stewpot. For they were cannibals too, you see.
I blame SM Stirling.
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I dreamt that I brutally murdered a fat man for no reason, in cold blood.
44: Okay, well, I'll have to stay clear of Irvine for awhile then.
42: "[R]itually"? I'm no scholar of pre-rabbinical Judaism, but were the Masada suicides conducted in a ritual manner?
Reading the link in the original post, I got to wonder if any of the people arguing with each other were for real. Helen Louise reminded me of Chimt Illms. Not to say it was him under a different pseudonym; it could have been someone else adopting the same rhetorical pose.
I'm no scholar of pre-rabbinical Judaism
That's what they all say.
I've spoken to Chimt, and it definitely wasn't him/her.
Chimt is more into defense than forays into enemy territory, you see.
Chimt is more into defense
Repulsion, one might say.
48: I'm pretty sure it wasn't ritual, just on old-school stabbing.
Rereading 49, I meant to say "I got to wonder [sic] if any of the people arguing with each other weren't for real." I assume that they're mostly sincere with one or two spoofs or parodies in there mocking and encouraging the nutcases for their own amusement, not that they're all spoofs.
51-53: Sure, quite possibly someone else then, like I said.
55: I can't speak for the veracity of Chimt's denial, but I can assure you that I didn't comment in that thread.
56: For the third time, I believe it. All I ever said in the first place was that someone there "reminded me of" him.
57: I'm mostly just goofing, but you did write "Sure, quite possibly someone else then, like I said."
To me at least, "quite possibly" means something along the lines of "maybe", and my mental response is "no, dammit, it's not quite possibly someone else, it is someone else, because Chimt didn't do it."
58: I hedge my bets in my phrasing. Is that so wrong?
Have you considered rearranging the letters in "Chimt Illms"?
cat nosflow.61.txt > /dev/standpipe
61: I have indeed considered it. Seems impractical though.
61: What, you think I should take his word for it?
That would be uncharacteristically trusting of me, especially given the topic. No offense to Chimt, but it's the kind of thing he might have lied to you about.
NO WAY WOULD CHIMT ILLMS EVER LIE!
68: Hey, find your own anagrams!
69: But I have none! A bit of a shocking result at first blush, but only 2 vowels to 9 consonants and the "J" as a constraint.
And in scary fast google-bot fashion that instance of "Milch Milts" is already #1 (of 5) google results. (Picked up from the front page not the thread).
but only 2 vowels to 9 consonants and the "J" as a constraint.
So spell your name "Jay Pee Stormcrowe".
My actual name anagrams to Ass Burners. Which, given the Mongolian death worm thread, is eerily appropriate. Apostropher scrambles to Rather Poops.
My actual name anagrams to Ass Burners
Also "Bass Nurser".
And come to think of it, I think "Asss Burner" is even better. You know, in homage to the sizzly "sssss" sound that burning stuff makes.
"Cry us." How boring. The question of what my actual name anagrams to is fraught with meaning, but let's do it multiple choice: my first name plus preferred middle and preferred last anagrams to, among other things, "Cycle Queers Love Us." My first name plus just preferred last name anagrams to exactly three words: "Cuss queer levy."
Arlen Specter has possibly the best for a politician: "creep rentals."
Arlen Specter has possibly the best for a politician: "creep rentals."
Spiro "grow a penis" Agnew begs to differ.
Ronald Wilson "Insane Anglo Warlord" Reagan
80 to 78, but I think it applies to 79 too. Apparently I have low standards for anagrams from politicians' names.
George Herbert Walker Bush = Huge Berserk Rebel Warthog
Sarah Louise Palin = Sensual Oil Pariah
Joseph Lieberman = Menial Herpes Job
He might prefer
Joseph Lieberman = Joe Helps Nab Emir
73: So spell your name "Jay Pee Stormcrowe".
Sure now, go ahead and disrespect me Mum 'n' Dad and the name they give me.
Charlottesville, Virginia = Hello, Cavalier virgin tits