There are scientists that comment here? I thought we were all lawyers.
We're hoping that scientists lurk, and can be brought into the light to help the lawyers out.
Like I said in the other thread, I think rilkefan is a scientist, and I don't know if old crank Handley is around, but I think he's a scientist, and someone knew a lot about herpes, but commented anonymously.
I wonder if lawyers tend to blog and comment more than other professions.
I've got a call in to Dr. Germ, my college roommate (the one who hung out with us last week at the bar). If she calls back and is up for it, she's a genuine post-doc, doing scary things with TB.
PZ Myers has been known to read this blog. He's commented at least once.
All, thanks. No winner yet, but I'm hopeful.
5: Yep. We're fluent writers who are more likely than the average to be cranky about our jobs. Hence, timewasting through prose generation.
Dr. Germ is way cool! She'd be a good subject.
Also, offtopic, I'd like to say thanks to Ogged. I felt so worldly last night when I knew what GFE meant prior to it being explained on VMars.
I'm in my third year of a PhD program, does that count? I don't actually have a job as a scientist, but I scientize.
13 - That's perfect! thank you a lot-- can you email me?
(that is to say, I'm in a laboratory, doing scientific experiments, pretty much all the time)
more likely than the average to be cranky about our jobs.
Why should we be cranky with our jobs. I was up until 5 AM editing a complaint because our secretary can't type and my partner who wrote the brief was not too worried about getting the facts exactly right or the writing more than stream of consciousness. Had to get up at 8 AM for a client conference call where the client decided not to show up. And now I'm going to have a quick dinner in my office, take a nap on my couch so I can get up at 11:00 PM, when others working on the Complaint are supposed done with their edits so I can try to make sure the writing does not suck and the facts are now right so we can get it ready for a final review in the morning except the client still is not sure of all the facts so whatever we do will be edited again once we get the client to focus on it.
Cranky, me? No way. Why do you ask? Oh wait, you didn't ask. Sorry. [wanders off muttering]
scientist needs been met?
if not, my e-mail's below.
This lawyer embarrassed himself this afternoon while attempting for the first time to do legal work, follow office conversation, and comment on this blog at the same time. Made obvious proofreading errors which ruined my jokes. I don't know how LB does it.
CN -- Thanks.
Ideal -- "leave [to amend] shall be freely given" Some of the nicest words in the Fed R Civ P.
"leave [to amend] shall be freely given"
So true. Unfortunately, this is the amended complaint. In our defense, we filed the initial complaint almost four years ago, the case sat dormant until defendants' motion to dismiss and our motion for summary judgment (yes, we moved without there having been any discovery, should have won, too) were denied last month. Now the client wants to add a bunch of claims.
Yeah, what used to be called a natural philosopher. I'm off to a (political) meeting. Tomorrow.
There was an astronomer lurking here from UCSC, that's pretty cool.
LB can identify fake scientists, if that would help.
I, too, am a scientizer with lurking tendencies. Theoretically I'm getting ready to write my Ph.d. thesis. Experimentally I can falsify that.
I did the interview. Didn't mention that some people think we may destroy the universe one of these days.
Wait, someone else did the interview?? It's done already??
Sorry, I've been running in and out of the office this evening.
Didn't mention that some people think we may destroy the universe one of these days.
We're not? Shit! That's why I got into the biz in the first place. Dr. Pauli was my hero, Captain Video was a twit, and the Video Ranger was worse.
Probably too late to respond to the request, but I'm a lurking scientist.
That's the first time I've realized you are a lawyer, IDP. Man, it's like we breed them here.
Hey, I've done my part to reduce the number of lawyers here.
Lawyers and philosophers. They'll argue the law, we'll argue that it doesn't exist, and then we all make cock jokes.
Economists can, however, employ me this summer! Please.
And I promise I'm much better at economics than I am at closing tags.
Picket the World Bank, but with a sign offering your services rather than decrying the capitalist plutocrat bastards. They'll find it so charming, you'll be hired on the spot.
I'm a scientist- chemistry PhD 2004, now in biotech industry- and only a partial lurker (I become one after comments > 100).
But it looks like you already have what you need.
Actually, I thought there were more.
Physicist here (postdoc). Experiments though, none of the sexy string theory or cosmology everyone always wants to hear about.
This reminds me of the early days of aol teen chat boards when people would call for everyone to state their age and gender ("Age/sex check!") every two minutes. Employment / lawfirm check!
This reminds me of the early days of aol teen chat boards when people would call for everyone to state their age and gender ("Age/sex check!") every two minutes.
I think you may be overestimating how much has changed since then.
Lurker, (although I have commented, honest!), physicist here.
How does a physicist, rather than someone keeping turtles alive in tanks, end up calling themselves mealworm? I had you pegged as a reptile owner, either hobbyist or professionally.
16: That definitely sucks, but I am also in awe. You're definitely older than I am, and I know that I don't have the stamina for that sort of thing. I think that I'd be pretty useless at midnight after having gotten in for a conference call at 8.
Are there legal jobs which don't require schedules quite that grueling?
Wow; multiple physicists? We should band together and rout the lawyers. I'm not sure what we'd be better at. Math?
Do chemical physicists count? Because we can do math and, potentially, blow things up.
That may be a bit rash--I'm not sure that's the kind of blowing that flies ATM.
Well, but we were talking about taking on the lawyers, which suggests that it is, in fact, the appropriate sort. Because we're certainly not going to win on other grounds (pay, respect?) -- or am I missing something essential here?
And no, I don't have pastries or cake, but those are only for trolls, right, not lurkers?
Wait a sec: lawyers also get respect? From whom?
(By which I mean: it's proverbial to prod them, isn't it?)
45: Yeah, I would have expected "mealworm" to be either a biologist or a lawyer.
do we have more than two mathematicians?
55: I dunno; working as a research mathematician and/or lecturing mathematics? Has a ph.d in math? I'll know it when I see it?
I sort of hate these definitional problems. Two I know of, wondering how many lurk.....
I guess I was then going to ask, "Define 'mathematics'?" But now I'm just being annoying, "I know it when I see it " is alright too.
I think I'm a professional mathematician. Here are the for and against arguments.
For: I am paid to do math research (I'm not teaching this year, and have only taught 1 year so far). I have succesfully done math research (multiple publications). I am perfectly happy self-describing as a mathematician.
Against: I'm still in graduate school (5th year) and I won't be getting a Ph.D. until Spring 2008.
I report, you decide.
L., if you become an economist, it's over between us.
58: for what it's worth, I'm perfectly happy with your self-description. Graduate studies in any discipline are of course a bit of a grey area. Are you really `a professional X' if you've had a term of graduate study in it and still aren't sure where it's going? Alternatively, if you get a ph.d in X, go into industry, spend 15 years there and now don't really do much of X at all, what are you?
If forced to try a definition, I guess I'd start with a first cut that a mathematician is anyone who creates new mathematics that is useful to others. Other disciplines similarly....
61: to other mathematicians, at least. It's a crappy definition, but somewhere in thee we need the idea of utility. We can sit here all day and create pointless new maths. I wanted to avoid using an internal term like `interesting' (which has its own problems).
59: You're trying to push her toward econ?
soubzriquet,
I'm not at all against "interesting maths," except when they tried to teach 'em to me ;)
Incidentally, the title of this post sounds like one of those topless fundraiser calendars.
If you all send in pictures, we'll see what we can do.
26: Yes, the astronomer from UCSC is still lurking, at least once in a while. Sorry I stepped out while you were looking for scientists. So much for cool.
Sorry for the delay (see why I lurk?). I have no idea where "mealworm" came from. Pretty random, huh?