Re: Restaurant Bleg

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As far as "where you can get a reservation", OpenTable should give you a lot of help in that area.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:13 AM
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Yes! What Becks said. I use OpenTable for everything.

Those trendy places in the meatpacking area are always impressive. Pastis, Spice Market, etc.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:15 AM
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My sister told me she is thinking about Nougatine for her law school graduation dinner (yay my sister!) She has good taste in fancy restaurants so it is probably really good. It is on Columbus Circle so not too far from your target area. One of my favorite places, which I think might be appropriate to your query, is La Luncheonette at 10th Ave. and 18th Street. The name to the contrary it is quite a fancy restaurant. I've only been there a couple of times (like usually when somebody else was paying) but I don't recall having trouble making a reservation. Particularly on a Tuesday, you should be ok.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:17 AM
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Those trendy places in the meatpacking area are always impressive. Pastis, Spice Market, etc.

You're going to make me cry, Joe.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:27 AM
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MY honey's mother took us to a ridiculously posh French restaurant around the E30s: "La Grenouille." Very good food.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:37 AM
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Why?


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:48 AM
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I live in AZ, so I have no suggestions. But if you don't get your answer at Unfogged, try posting your question on this board:
http://www.chowhound.com/boards/18


Posted by: Michelle | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:50 AM
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trendy places in the meatpacking area

Hogs 'n Heifers?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:51 AM
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Hogs 'n Heifers is pretty good, but for my money The Hog Pit is the better barbecue in that hood.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:53 AM
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9 -- Johnny Knoxville's appearance in that link is classic something-or-other.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:56 AM
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I hear great things about Tabla on 25th and Madison. In the same area, 11 Madison recently redid its menu, I think, and is more traditional fancy-pants food.


Posted by: DaveB | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:56 AM
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6: I've seen moody TV shows about artists, and I'm certain that you're not supposed to go to trendy places. Certainly, you're not supposed to like them.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:56 AM
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Sorry, but my New York restaurant knowledge is over six years old and, therefore, completely useless to your query.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:00 AM
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Let me see if I understand: you're "too busy" with work to comment around here, yet you somehow have time to take your mother out for a birthday dinner?

Life's all about priorities, LB. You've made yours perfectly clear.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:01 AM
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Dave's 11 Madison Park suggestion is good, if you can get in on short notice. Their new chef has been getting good reviews and the decor is traditional, not one of those crazy trendy places (which could be good for your mom). I was there for a fancy business meeting thing a while back and my coworker summed it up best when he said "You know it's gonna be a great meal when they serve your steak with a butter knife."


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:01 AM
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Tabla is good. That reminds me; Tamarind is really great, if she's ok with Indian.

I don't go to the trendy restaurants, Tim! I just walk by and sneer.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:01 AM
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over six years old

B-but what about the empire state building wedding proposal? Surely you went out to dinner after?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:01 AM
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16: Tears saved, crisis of faith averted.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:04 AM
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"You know it's gonna be a great meal when they serve your steak with a butter knife."

...So you'll be able to spread butter on your steak?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:13 AM
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...So you'll be able to spread butter on your steak?

Oh God that sounds good.

I got nothing in your target area, LB. Sorry.


Posted by: Halfway Done | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:30 AM
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15: Just because LB is the way she is, let's not assume that her mother isn't "with it". Maybe it's just Liz.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:36 AM
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http://www.bluehillnyc.com/main.html is usually delicious

Washington Sq. North (Western Corner)


Posted by: adhocheretic | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:44 AM
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Further to 3: here is a brief review of La Luncheonette that I wrote 7 years ago, the first time I ate there, and a bunch of responses thereto.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:53 AM
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... Um, I mean "9 years ago". The arithmetic, it's never been my strong suite.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 9:54 AM
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...So you'll be able to spread butter on your steak?

Oh God that sounds good.

That's why, despite living in a hotbed of local steakhouses, I still unrepentedly love Ruth's Chris (sorry LB, no help here). How could you not love a place that cooks and serves your steak in a sizzling hot shallow pool of butter and herbs?


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:00 AM
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19 - No, because it's so tender that's all you need to cut it.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:01 AM
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All this talk about steak makes me remember that I have some leftover chelo kebab ("meat candy") in the fridge. MMmmmmmmmm.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:09 AM
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You should go either to Gordon Ramsey's new restaurant or Applewood.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:15 AM
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Blue Hill used to be good.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:16 AM
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Asian cuisines aren't a big favorite

Racist.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:17 AM
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Wait, isn't w-lfs-n's sister employed as Something Important in some NYC restaurant? LB should go there.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:19 AM
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But seriously, go to Craftsteak. Mmm... steak...


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:19 AM
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Pub crawl!


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:23 AM
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My sister is employed at Applewood (and was formerly at Blue Hill, and before that at Le Bernadin) and her fiancé at Gordon Ramsay's new thing. Hence my TOTALLY UNBIASED recommendations.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:24 AM
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moody TV shows about artists

Jody isn't an artist. He writes musicals.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 10:27 AM
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32 - I went to Craftbar last week when a friend was visiting. Meh.

Except! I had an appetizer that you can totally make at home that is teh yum: take a baguette, slice it lengthwise, put some blue cheese (and, if you want, a few peanuts) on it and broil until melted. When finished, drizzle honey on top. Yuuuuum.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:23 AM
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The papers in London have been full of gleefully bad reviews of Gordon Ramsay's new place. I would avoid on principle anywhere run by someone on television.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 11:43 AM
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"run by someone on television" s/b "recommended by w-lfs-n"


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 12:01 PM
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I had an early (6:30) dinner at Joel Robuchon (in the Four Seasons) the other week and the bar---where they serve the same menu as the dining room---seemed about half full. Its totally delicious if a bit pricey. You might try that.

I also think its reasonably easy to get a reservation at Jo Jo on short notice. It's Jean-Georges first restaurant so classic French with some Asian fusion (but much more restrained than Jean-Georges and more more French than Vong). It's wonderful food, unstuffy services, in the low-sixties on the east side, but perhaps less than newish.

I think Tabla and Eleven Madison are great choices.



Posted by: Lurker | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 12:02 PM
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Joel Robuchon has a restaurant in NYC?! I own one of his cookbooks.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 12:07 PM
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Try the official NYC restaurant of Unfogged: Chock Full O'Nuts


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 12:55 PM
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In the NYC area that establishment has renamed itself Chock Café.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 12:57 PM
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I went to Nougatine a week ago and was unimpressed. The service was fine--overattentive actually; they confiscate your bread plate when you finish your bread. But the food, while attractively presented, wasn't that great. It seemed they were trying to be creative and it didn't quite work.

I knew I was in trouble when my French husband said of his foie gras appetizer, with some carmelized hard shell on top of it, "I wish they had made it like you do at home." It was downhill from there, with the sauces not really enhancing the meat and the side dishes just off. The warm chocolate cake was fine, but again, I could do that at home, and $12 worth would feed the whole family.

However, it is an easy place to get a last-minute reservation, and the Margaux by the glass was excellent.


Posted by: Shamhat | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 2:17 PM
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Thanks Shamhat -- I will notify my little sister. (Did I mention yay little sister!)


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 2:19 PM
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Normally I'd be congratulatory, but given the circumstances I worry on her behalf.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 2:23 PM
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the circumstances

Which ones? You mean that she is going to be a lawyer?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 2:27 PM
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Daniel Humm's food at Eleven Madison is supposed to be fantastic, though I understand you have to get one of the tasting menus in order not to leave hungry.

Not mentioned yet, but also worth your consideration, is Cru, on Fifth Avenue at 9th. It may be known more for its wine list (lists, actually: one phone-book size volume for red and one for white, with a lot of well-priced older vintages), but the food is great, too. The chef was a Food & Wine best new chef a couple of years ago. Italian-oriented, with a bit of Spanish and French and some tastefully deployed modernist touches.


Posted by: matt m | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 3:05 PM
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Oh, the Modern (at MoMA) is really nice, with very good food and excellent cocktails.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 3:06 PM
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28: With apologies to your sister, Applewood is grotesquely overrated.

Artisinal? Blue Smoke?

A lot of the fancier restaurants are do-able on short notice if you're willing to sit at the bar.


Posted by: Chris Conway | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 5:51 PM
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36 - You know Craftbar and Craft are not the same place as Craftsteak, right? (although they have the same owner.)

I'm a Peter Luger loyalist, but I found Craftsteak excellent. We had a raw seafood platter, including a whole lobster, that would have been a good dinner all by itself, followed by a melt-in-your-mouth Kobe beef sampler before our actual steaks, which were richly flavorful, juicy, and perfectly textured. Plus, the wine list is long and well-chosen.

We had to force ourselves to eat dessert (which they brought out for free even though we had said we'd pass on it), because, you know, kids are starving in Africa.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:13 PM
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Raw lobster? Really?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:18 PM
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The lobster was cooked, but served cold. I was thinking about that after I wrote the post. What I meant was that there were raw oysters, clams, etc. plus other cold, but cooked items. I should've just said "seafood platter".


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:25 PM
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Or "cold seafood platter".


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:30 PM
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There's a great seafood restaurant in Chelsea called Mare (around W23rd), but it might not be as fancy as you're looking for. It has half-price oysters until 7pm on weeknights...


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 6:41 PM
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Okay, that makes sense. I was thinking, I'm usually game for anything, but...
On the other hand, if it were live lobster putting up a heroic fight, that might be worth a try.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 7:30 PM
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A friend of mine says that in Japan they eat raw shrimp, which is interesting because shrimp are bottom feeders who eat anything that sinks to the ocean floor.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:10 PM
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I heard in Korea, they eat dog.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:20 PM
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In Shediac, New Brunswick, the self-proclaimed "lobster capital of the world," someone told me that the abundance of lobster was directly related to the abundance of sewage effluent in the bay. Undeterred, I went to a local all-you-can-eat lobster joint and had five. The memory almost makes me weep.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-23-07 8:37 PM
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Emerson, isn't there a Chinese dish that involves dropping live shrimp into rice wine and then eating them after the alcohol kills them and they float up to the surface?


Posted by: BZA | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 2:44 AM
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Thank you, everyone -- La Luncheonett won the crucial "let me make a reservation on short notice" test, although 11 Madison sounded really good.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 7:59 AM
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Why not wait till you actually see w-lfs-n to throw piss in his (really, his sister's) face?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 8:01 AM
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60 -- excellent, let me know how you guys like La Luncheonett[e].


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 8:02 AM
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56: A friend of mine says that in Japan they eat raw shrimp

I ate one at a sushi restaurant one time where the chef pulled it live out of the tank, sliced it up, and served it to me with the tail still twitching. Mmm....


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 8:43 PM
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63: There's a couple places in LA where they serve it straight-up live.

And then there's the live octopus tentacles.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 8:51 PM
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62: It was pleasant. The food wasn't terribly interesting, but nice and competent. And a French-accented waitress described what the US has done in Iraq as "worse than Hitler" -- somehow political conversations with my mother in them tend to go that way. She is the Angry Left.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 8:55 PM
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You mean "werse dan it-lehr," I think.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 9:00 PM
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Oui.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-24-07 9:00 PM
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